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		<title>By: BrianKrebs</title>
		<link>http://krebsonsecurity.com/2010/02/blade-hacking-away-at-drive-by-downloads/comment-page-1/#comment-11273</link>
		<dc:creator>BrianKrebs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2010 21:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s incorrect, Vincent. The whole point of BLADE is to block exploits so that malware cannot be written to the hard drive. It does nothing to remove malware.

As I mentioned to several folks who asked questions, please consider reading the MIT Tech Review article linked to at the top of this story for more on the technical details of how this works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s incorrect, Vincent. The whole point of BLADE is to block exploits so that malware cannot be written to the hard drive. It does nothing to remove malware.</p>
<p>As I mentioned to several folks who asked questions, please consider reading the MIT Tech Review article linked to at the top of this story for more on the technical details of how this works.</p>
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		<title>By: Vincent</title>
		<link>http://krebsonsecurity.com/2010/02/blade-hacking-away-at-drive-by-downloads/comment-page-1/#comment-11272</link>
		<dc:creator>Vincent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2010 21:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Brian,
From the article and the last line it looks like this tool detects and removes malware written to the hard drive. So that means it’s based on definition files and heuristics, similar to AV. Is this correct?  Please confirm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Brian,<br />
From the article and the last line it looks like this tool detects and removes malware written to the hard drive. So that means it’s based on definition files and heuristics, similar to AV. Is this correct?  Please confirm.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://krebsonsecurity.com/2010/02/blade-hacking-away-at-drive-by-downloads/comment-page-1/#comment-11255</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2010 18:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are some tests of AV effectiveness against various sorts of not-strictly-virus malware. For example, av-comparitives does look at things like effectiveness against trojans in their main AV reports: http://www.av-comparatives.org/comparativesreviews/main-tests

Executive summary: no tested product managed to catch 60% of trojans.

Obviously, we need to move beyond pattern-matching alone, and use more heuristic (and other) methods of detection and prevention. How interesting BLADE might be as an additional security layer will depend on the (still unavailable) details, e.g., source code and binary licensing terms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are some tests of AV effectiveness against various sorts of not-strictly-virus malware. For example, av-comparitives does look at things like effectiveness against trojans in their main AV reports: <a href="http://www.av-comparatives.org/comparativesreviews/main-tests" rel="nofollow">http://www.av-comparatives.org/comparativesreviews/main-tests</a></p>
<p>Executive summary: no tested product managed to catch 60% of trojans.</p>
<p>Obviously, we need to move beyond pattern-matching alone, and use more heuristic (and other) methods of detection and prevention. How interesting BLADE might be as an additional security layer will depend on the (still unavailable) details, e.g., source code and binary licensing terms.</p>
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		<title>By: ISN</title>
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		<dc:creator>ISN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 20:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recommend that you try out Sandboxie. Great for malware analysis</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recommend that you try out Sandboxie. Great for malware analysis</p>
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		<title>By: Yep, There&#8217;s a Patch for That &#8212; Krebs on Security</title>
		<link>http://krebsonsecurity.com/2010/02/blade-hacking-away-at-drive-by-downloads/comment-page-1/#comment-3216</link>
		<dc:creator>Yep, There&#8217;s a Patch for That &#8212; Krebs on Security</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 05:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] software vendors, could well reduce the number of Windows users whose machines get trashed by drive-by downloads, as all of these malicious or hacked sites try to silently install malware by targeting security [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] software vendors, could well reduce the number of Windows users whose machines get trashed by drive-by downloads, as all of these malicious or hacked sites try to silently install malware by targeting security [...]</p>
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		<title>By: M Henri Day</title>
		<link>http://krebsonsecurity.com/2010/02/blade-hacking-away-at-drive-by-downloads/comment-page-1/#comment-2800</link>
		<dc:creator>M Henri Day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 22:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe, you may, as I do, find ShadowServer&#039;s (http://preview.tinyurl.com/yetkdb4 ) statistics of use in dealing with those exaggerated claims. I tend to concentrate on the Virus Monthly Stats rather than with the daily counterparts, in order to average out fluctuations....

Henri</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe, you may, as I do, find ShadowServer&#8217;s (<a href="http://preview.tinyurl.com/yetkdb4" rel="nofollow">http://preview.tinyurl.com/yetkdb4</a> ) statistics of use in dealing with those exaggerated claims. I tend to concentrate on the Virus Monthly Stats rather than with the daily counterparts, in order to average out fluctuations&#8230;.</p>
<p>Henri</p>
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		<title>By: Hacking Guy Social Network - Barestar to Celebrities</title>
		<link>http://krebsonsecurity.com/2010/02/blade-hacking-away-at-drive-by-downloads/comment-page-1/#comment-2796</link>
		<dc:creator>Hacking Guy Social Network - Barestar to Celebrities</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 21:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] BLADE: Hacking Away at Drive-By Downloads — Krebs on Security [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] BLADE: Hacking Away at Drive-By Downloads — Krebs on Security [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Gibbons</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Gibbons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 15:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the past year, I have seen various industry analyses report the lack of effectiveness of AV products detecting zero-day exploits and new threats generally stating a miss rate of between 30 and 60%.
Every AV provider I deal with states their product has an effectiveness of between 99 -100%.
Is there any information out there that enables me to rank AV products on their ability to deal with  zero day exploits and &quot;new&quot; threats</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the past year, I have seen various industry analyses report the lack of effectiveness of AV products detecting zero-day exploits and new threats generally stating a miss rate of between 30 and 60%.<br />
Every AV provider I deal with states their product has an effectiveness of between 99 -100%.<br />
Is there any information out there that enables me to rank AV products on their ability to deal with  zero day exploits and &#8220;new&#8221; threats</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 05:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://bit.ly/baamQ7

&#039;BLADE&#039;s approach is to intercept and impose &#039;execution prevention&#039; of all downloaded content that has not been directly consented to by user-to-browser interaction.&#039;

Yep yep yep! That&#039;s essentially the Apple quarantine idea taken down to kernel level - that seems to be a Good Idea™.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://bit.ly/baamQ7" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/baamQ7</a></p>
<p>&#8216;BLADE&#8217;s approach is to intercept and impose &#8216;execution prevention&#8217; of all downloaded content that has not been directly consented to by user-to-browser interaction.&#8217;</p>
<p>Yep yep yep! That&#8217;s essentially the Apple quarantine idea taken down to kernel level &#8211; that seems to be a Good Idea™.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 04:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BLADE might be released as a &#039;free tool&#039; but the white paper describing how it works is anything but free - they want $25 for an electronic download.

http://bit.ly/cIJI70</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BLADE might be released as a &#8216;free tool&#8217; but the white paper describing how it works is anything but free &#8211; they want $25 for an electronic download.</p>
<p><a href="http://bit.ly/cIJI70" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/cIJI70</a></p>
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