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		<title>By: win</title>
		<link>http://krebsonsecurity.com/2010/03/mse-users-check-for-updates/comment-page-1/#comment-4412</link>
		<dc:creator>win</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 20:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i tried 5 times to download mse directly from the microsoft website which forces you to use ie (8) -- and it never downloaded! either that or it hid it in some secret folder which eluded windoze file searcher

that&#039;s another thing I absolutely DETEST about explorer -- you can&#039;t designate the download folder or location w/out regedit tweaks.

hate it hate it hate it ! -- which is one of many gazillion reasons why i am now a mac person -- but i still have to do the winpc cr@p for relatives and friends who simply can&#039;t/won&#039;t/shouldn&#039;t have to learn all the ever-changing technical crap foisted upon the world by windoze.

anyway, finally went to softpedia
so for any of your readers having the same (unsurprising but infuriating problems downloading from microsoft) here are links:
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Antivirus/Microsoft-Security-Essentials.shtml
winxp 32 bit is &gt; 
http://www.softpedia.com/progDownload/Microsoft-Security-Essentials-Download-131683.html
they have secure download links and yes it&#039;s the newer version

anyway cheers BK and keep up the great work; sure hope you resume your great chats!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i tried 5 times to download mse directly from the microsoft website which forces you to use ie (8) &#8212; and it never downloaded! either that or it hid it in some secret folder which eluded windoze file searcher</p>
<p>that&#8217;s another thing I absolutely DETEST about explorer &#8212; you can&#8217;t designate the download folder or location w/out regedit tweaks.</p>
<p>hate it hate it hate it ! &#8212; which is one of many gazillion reasons why i am now a mac person &#8212; but i still have to do the winpc cr@p for relatives and friends who simply can&#8217;t/won&#8217;t/shouldn&#8217;t have to learn all the ever-changing technical crap foisted upon the world by windoze.</p>
<p>anyway, finally went to softpedia<br />
so for any of your readers having the same (unsurprising but infuriating problems downloading from microsoft) here are links:<br />
<a href="http://www.softpedia.com/get/Antivirus/Microsoft-Security-Essentials.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.softpedia.com/get/Antivirus/Microsoft-Security-Essentials.shtml</a><br />
winxp 32 bit is &gt;<br />
<a href="http://www.softpedia.com/progDownload/Microsoft-Security-Essentials-Download-131683.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.softpedia.com/progDownload/Microsoft-Security-Essentials-Download-131683.html</a><br />
they have secure download links and yes it&#8217;s the newer version</p>
<p>anyway cheers BK and keep up the great work; sure hope you resume your great chats!</p>
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		<title>By: AlphaCentauri</title>
		<link>http://krebsonsecurity.com/2010/03/mse-users-check-for-updates/comment-page-1/#comment-4316</link>
		<dc:creator>AlphaCentauri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 03:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Microsoft wants to do something about people pirating their software, they can start by looking in their own front yard. Spaces.live.com is their own blog hosting service:
bycyvowuky.spaces.live.com
suliwicytu.spaces.live.com
siravako.spaces.live.com
cahyvyxax.spaces.live.com
doliduby.spaces.live.com
zajymava.spaces.live.com
etc. 

All of those &quot;blogs&quot; are actually just ads for websites at
privatoneas.net 
vietongeras.net
Those are sites selling pirated software -- including Microsoft&#039;s own products.

They aren&#039;t hard to find, since the spammers are considerate enough to email the evidence to millions of people over and over all day long. There are also plenty of websites they can go to if they need help finding more:
http://rss.uribl.com/hosters/spaces_live_com.html
http://spamtrackers.eu/wiki/index.php/Spaces.live.com
http://ksforum.inboxrevenge.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&amp;t=3428
http://ikillspammers.blogspot.com/2010/03/msn-live-spaces-wake-up.html

Perhaps Microsoft thinks that people stupid enough to download software from criminals sending spam from hijacked computers deserve whatever happens to their own computers. But it sure gives everyone else the impression that Microsoft doesn&#039;t really mind piracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Microsoft wants to do something about people pirating their software, they can start by looking in their own front yard. Spaces.live.com is their own blog hosting service:<br />
bycyvowuky.spaces.live.com<br />
suliwicytu.spaces.live.com<br />
siravako.spaces.live.com<br />
cahyvyxax.spaces.live.com<br />
doliduby.spaces.live.com<br />
zajymava.spaces.live.com<br />
etc. </p>
<p>All of those &#8220;blogs&#8221; are actually just ads for websites at<br />
privatoneas.net<br />
vietongeras.net<br />
Those are sites selling pirated software &#8212; including Microsoft&#8217;s own products.</p>
<p>They aren&#8217;t hard to find, since the spammers are considerate enough to email the evidence to millions of people over and over all day long. There are also plenty of websites they can go to if they need help finding more:<br />
<a href="http://rss.uribl.com/hosters/spaces_live_com.html" rel="nofollow">http://rss.uribl.com/hosters/spaces_live_com.html</a><br />
<a href="http://spamtrackers.eu/wiki/index.php/Spaces.live.com" rel="nofollow">http://spamtrackers.eu/wiki/index.php/Spaces.live.com</a><br />
<a href="http://ksforum.inboxrevenge.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&#038;t=3428" rel="nofollow">http://ksforum.inboxrevenge.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&#038;t=3428</a><br />
<a href="http://ikillspammers.blogspot.com/2010/03/msn-live-spaces-wake-up.html" rel="nofollow">http://ikillspammers.blogspot.com/2010/03/msn-live-spaces-wake-up.html</a></p>
<p>Perhaps Microsoft thinks that people stupid enough to download software from criminals sending spam from hijacked computers deserve whatever happens to their own computers. But it sure gives everyone else the impression that Microsoft doesn&#8217;t really mind piracy.</p>
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		<title>By: Solo Owl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Solo Owl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 01:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my experience, Windows has problems if the clock is off by more than a day or two.

Whenever I re-install the OS, or try to repair a system, I begin by reviewing the BIOS Setup screens. I always check the CMOS clock against a cell phone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my experience, Windows has problems if the clock is off by more than a day or two.</p>
<p>Whenever I re-install the OS, or try to repair a system, I begin by reviewing the BIOS Setup screens. I always check the CMOS clock against a cell phone.</p>
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		<title>By: Solo Owl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Solo Owl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 01:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Click the little white triangle to the right of the word &quot;Help&quot;. Then select &quot;About...&quot; from the bottom of the menu that pops up. (This could have been better designed.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Click the little white triangle to the right of the word &#8220;Help&#8221;. Then select &#8220;About&#8230;&#8221; from the bottom of the menu that pops up. (This could have been better designed.)</p>
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		<title>By: Bob T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 20:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clicking &#039;help&#039; brings up a microsoft web page with no useful information about my particular version.  I don&#039;t understand preceding comment from Bob regarding &#039;property mode tabs&#039;.
While I&#039;m at it ... I don&#039;t understand why MSE doesn&#039;t keep a record of scans in its history - if I schedule a scan to run overnight, there&#039;s no way for me to know if it actually ran or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clicking &#8216;help&#8217; brings up a microsoft web page with no useful information about my particular version.  I don&#8217;t understand preceding comment from Bob regarding &#8216;property mode tabs&#8217;.<br />
While I&#8217;m at it &#8230; I don&#8217;t understand why MSE doesn&#8217;t keep a record of scans in its history &#8211; if I schedule a scan to run overnight, there&#8217;s no way for me to know if it actually ran or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a well known fact that if PersonA vehemently bashes PersonB while stating all the while how bad PersonB is for doing said action, that PersonA is in fact guilty of the same actions in his sordid past.

Point of fact:  Microsoft badgers people with WGA, WTA, the SBA, &quot;anti-piracy&quot; this and &quot;anti-piracy&quot; that while in their own past, they have been in over 45 legal litigations wherein they were accused of pirating.

So of course their WGA, WTA, etc. are to be expected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a well known fact that if PersonA vehemently bashes PersonB while stating all the while how bad PersonB is for doing said action, that PersonA is in fact guilty of the same actions in his sordid past.</p>
<p>Point of fact:  Microsoft badgers people with WGA, WTA, the SBA, &#8220;anti-piracy&#8221; this and &#8220;anti-piracy&#8221; that while in their own past, they have been in over 45 legal litigations wherein they were accused of pirating.</p>
<p>So of course their WGA, WTA, etc. are to be expected.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Latest Copywriting Auctions &#124; RH Sterling Affiliate Marketing Connection</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 04:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] MSE Users: Check for Updates, Piracy — Krebs on Security [...]</description>
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		<dc:creator>Backup your copy of Xbox 360 Video Games &#124; Video Game World</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 20:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] MSE Users: Check for Updates, Piracy &#8212; Krebs on Security [...]</description>
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		<description>[...] MSE Users: Check for Updates, Piracy — Krebs on Security [...]</description>
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