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		<title>By: E-Banking Security Guidelines to be Reviewed &#124; Security News</title>
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		<dc:creator>E-Banking Security Guidelines to be Reviewed &#124; Security News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the Full Interview See Krebs on Security   Posted in Privacy  Tags: banking security guidlines, cyber criminals, Privacy  &#171; Twitter [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the Full Interview See Krebs on Security   Posted in Privacy  Tags: banking security guidlines, cyber criminals, Privacy  &laquo; Twitter [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Daryl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 20:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick:

The simplistic Linux/Unix answer for every threat.
 
&quot;Rewrite billions of lines of code to run on their favorite subset of the Linux/Unix multiverse&quot;.  

Of course we would then see the bad guys flock to assault the open systems where the source code is equally available to them too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick:</p>
<p>The simplistic Linux/Unix answer for every threat.</p>
<p>&#8220;Rewrite billions of lines of code to run on their favorite subset of the Linux/Unix multiverse&#8221;.  </p>
<p>Of course we would then see the bad guys flock to assault the open systems where the source code is equally available to them too.</p>
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		<title>By: Cyber Crooks Leave Bank Robbers in the Dust &#8212; Krebs on Security</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cyber Crooks Leave Bank Robbers in the Dust &#8212; Krebs on Security</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 06:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] from the federal government? One guy from the FDIC giving a speech at the RSA conference. And as we heard from the FDIC last week, the federal regulators could start collecting (and hopefully publishing) these kinds of statistics [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] from the federal government? One guy from the FDIC giving a speech at the RSA conference. And as we heard from the FDIC last week, the federal regulators could start collecting (and hopefully publishing) these kinds of statistics [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jose Navarro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jose Navarro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 22:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Banks couls avoid all this problems and save themselves the agravation of possible lawsuits by simply providing a dedicated workstation to their clients. No email, no browsing to any sites permitted that the Bank&#039;s site, Personal firewall that will allow only a connection to the Bank&#039;s URL, no connection to the interal company network! For about $ 2,000 dollars they could save themselves hundreds of thousands.

But this is to easy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Banks couls avoid all this problems and save themselves the agravation of possible lawsuits by simply providing a dedicated workstation to their clients. No email, no browsing to any sites permitted that the Bank&#8217;s site, Personal firewall that will allow only a connection to the Bank&#8217;s URL, no connection to the interal company network! For about $ 2,000 dollars they could save themselves hundreds of thousands.</p>
<p>But this is to easy!</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Brewster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Brewster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 00:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Banks do not eat any such loss.  It gets passed to depositors or other bank clients.  There is no practical mechanism for a loss to be passed to a bank&#039;s investors - the directors would never permit that even if they knew how to do it.  They simply take an action that adds to the revenue line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Banks do not eat any such loss.  It gets passed to depositors or other bank clients.  There is no practical mechanism for a loss to be passed to a bank&#8217;s investors &#8211; the directors would never permit that even if they knew how to do it.  They simply take an action that adds to the revenue line.</p>
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		<title>By: AlphaCentauri</title>
		<link>http://krebsonsecurity.com/2010/03/regulators-revisit-e-banking-security-guidelines/comment-page-1/#comment-3334</link>
		<dc:creator>AlphaCentauri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 03:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People are arguing that if banks had to eat the losses from small businesses the way they do with individual depositors, they would have better security.  If so, why don&#039;t they have better security for the individual depositors now? 

While the businesses might be more attractive targets because of the large amounts of money in their accounts, theft from small depositors is more likely to go undetected for longer periods of time. And of course, once the trojan is on the victim&#039;s computer, information about his banking habits is available to the thieves. It&#039;s still a good deal for them.  If an attack is coordinated, a single money mule could be used to receive transfers from multiple victims.   These thieves don&#039;t hesitate to go after small transactions; they&#039;ve used money mules for years to move consumer electronic products purchased with stolen credit cards out of the country. (Ordering DVD players and then sending a truck to the mule&#039;s home to pick it up is a much more involved process than a bank transfer, and the items being shipped have less value than what the average person has in his bank account on the day after payday.)

Mr. Drozdowski comes right out and says that that until the losses are in the billions, no one is going to get serious about this.  And losses in the billions are exactly what we will get if that&#039;s the threshold for the feds to get involved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People are arguing that if banks had to eat the losses from small businesses the way they do with individual depositors, they would have better security.  If so, why don&#8217;t they have better security for the individual depositors now? </p>
<p>While the businesses might be more attractive targets because of the large amounts of money in their accounts, theft from small depositors is more likely to go undetected for longer periods of time. And of course, once the trojan is on the victim&#8217;s computer, information about his banking habits is available to the thieves. It&#8217;s still a good deal for them.  If an attack is coordinated, a single money mule could be used to receive transfers from multiple victims.   These thieves don&#8217;t hesitate to go after small transactions; they&#8217;ve used money mules for years to move consumer electronic products purchased with stolen credit cards out of the country. (Ordering DVD players and then sending a truck to the mule&#8217;s home to pick it up is a much more involved process than a bank transfer, and the items being shipped have less value than what the average person has in his bank account on the day after payday.)</p>
<p>Mr. Drozdowski comes right out and says that that until the losses are in the billions, no one is going to get serious about this.  And losses in the billions are exactly what we will get if that&#8217;s the threshold for the feds to get involved.</p>
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		<title>By: elie kassab</title>
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		<dc:creator>elie kassab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 22:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WHAT ABOUT CUSTOMER SERVICE. How can the banks fall asleep at the wheel and give out their customers money virtually putting some of them out of business. If you deal with a bank that does not afford you that oipprtunity, then you need to move to another where you are personally known, and if an unauthorised activity appears to be happening on your account, then they need to CALL you before they allow such a transaction to happen.
What irks me most, they provide lousy cistomer service, and then blame you, the customer. What id your private information was stolen from them and given out to the cybercrooks??????????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WHAT ABOUT CUSTOMER SERVICE. How can the banks fall asleep at the wheel and give out their customers money virtually putting some of them out of business. If you deal with a bank that does not afford you that oipprtunity, then you need to move to another where you are personally known, and if an unauthorised activity appears to be happening on your account, then they need to CALL you before they allow such a transaction to happen.<br />
What irks me most, they provide lousy cistomer service, and then blame you, the customer. What id your private information was stolen from them and given out to the cybercrooks??????????</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 21:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re Electronic version of PassWindow.
I have developed the concept of an electronic version of PassWindow however there are three variables at play regarding this - security, cost and usability. 

Security wise while a dynamic key version would be an improvement by completely removing the statistical analysis attack problem, however currently the simple printed method this isnt a problem with 10000+ interception rates a user wont do that many authentications in anywhere near the lifetime of their printed key.  As with any added complexity to a system the complexity opens up new hi tech attack problems which need to be seriously considered. Overall the theoretical online security will be improved and some new features added but the practical online security wont change much.

Second is the cost not just of the devices themselves which would need specialized chips and hardware but also issues like security of the manufacturing chain and delivery costs which is a major issue many people forget or dismiss. Lets say for example the ZTIC devices were given free by the government to every bank for every user, the bank still needs to deliver millions of packages to everyone. Take a standard package delivery cost and multiply it by x million and that is  a big headache right there. The existing printed passwindow solution can be mailed by envelope (such as a monthly balance statement) anywhere and manufactured behind the desk of any office so I need to match that level of delivery cost in any future device which means on card electronics which I am watching closely. To be honest the technology just isnt quite there yet with the flexible cheap screens thin enough to go into a credit card, there are some companies with the technology to do it but the reliability isnt acceptable just yet.

Thirdly is the usability factor which has to be considered, as much as I like the theory of the ZTIC device and other electronic transaction signing tokens its true they are a royal pain to carry around, too big for a wallet and yet small enough to lose easily. The reality is most token devices (including my own) end up being left unattended around the office desk and an attacker only needs a few seconds access and an SMS of the code to his friend in x country and its game over. The most secure place on a person is the universal wallet where people keep their cash money so any solution really needs to be able to work with this existing infrastructure.

The electronic version will happen but I cant say exactly when.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re Electronic version of PassWindow.<br />
I have developed the concept of an electronic version of PassWindow however there are three variables at play regarding this &#8211; security, cost and usability. </p>
<p>Security wise while a dynamic key version would be an improvement by completely removing the statistical analysis attack problem, however currently the simple printed method this isnt a problem with 10000+ interception rates a user wont do that many authentications in anywhere near the lifetime of their printed key.  As with any added complexity to a system the complexity opens up new hi tech attack problems which need to be seriously considered. Overall the theoretical online security will be improved and some new features added but the practical online security wont change much.</p>
<p>Second is the cost not just of the devices themselves which would need specialized chips and hardware but also issues like security of the manufacturing chain and delivery costs which is a major issue many people forget or dismiss. Lets say for example the ZTIC devices were given free by the government to every bank for every user, the bank still needs to deliver millions of packages to everyone. Take a standard package delivery cost and multiply it by x million and that is  a big headache right there. The existing printed passwindow solution can be mailed by envelope (such as a monthly balance statement) anywhere and manufactured behind the desk of any office so I need to match that level of delivery cost in any future device which means on card electronics which I am watching closely. To be honest the technology just isnt quite there yet with the flexible cheap screens thin enough to go into a credit card, there are some companies with the technology to do it but the reliability isnt acceptable just yet.</p>
<p>Thirdly is the usability factor which has to be considered, as much as I like the theory of the ZTIC device and other electronic transaction signing tokens its true they are a royal pain to carry around, too big for a wallet and yet small enough to lose easily. The reality is most token devices (including my own) end up being left unattended around the office desk and an attacker only needs a few seconds access and an SMS of the code to his friend in x country and its game over. The most secure place on a person is the universal wallet where people keep their cash money so any solution really needs to be able to work with this existing infrastructure.</p>
<p>The electronic version will happen but I cant say exactly when.</p>
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		<title>By: I Love Guitar</title>
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		<dc:creator>I Love Guitar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 20:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shouldn&#039;t the title be &quot;E-Banking security failure&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shouldn&#8217;t the title be &#8220;E-Banking security failure&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: JCitizen</title>
		<link>http://krebsonsecurity.com/2010/03/regulators-revisit-e-banking-security-guidelines/comment-page-1/#comment-3281</link>
		<dc:creator>JCitizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 19:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel most users in the US would be much more amenable to the passwindow model. I don&#039;t think they want any gizmos that they have to buy, and would probably lose. I think passwindow is a very economical solution, until, as you say, something better is conceived.

One popular device, the iPhone has one advantage in that it can only process one transaction at a time. I understand this is hard wired into its hardware, so this could prevent any attempts to interfere with passwindow on a out of band device method; which I like even better. However, the iPhone is not THAT ubiquitous yet, so I digress.

I never lose my credit card, so passwindow is a very good fix for now, in my not so humble opinion. I would think even more sophistication could be added with nano-circuitry, that would be powered by the same cheap solar cells used in calculators and wrist watches. Perhaps this could future proof the concept?

Chip and PIN has already been defeated by several attack methods by crackers, some of them involving a simple paper clip. Having an expensive system like that defeated so quickly with all the expense that went into it, is why US banks are so timid to try that kind of technology. I can&#039;t say I blame them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel most users in the US would be much more amenable to the passwindow model. I don&#8217;t think they want any gizmos that they have to buy, and would probably lose. I think passwindow is a very economical solution, until, as you say, something better is conceived.</p>
<p>One popular device, the iPhone has one advantage in that it can only process one transaction at a time. I understand this is hard wired into its hardware, so this could prevent any attempts to interfere with passwindow on a out of band device method; which I like even better. However, the iPhone is not THAT ubiquitous yet, so I digress.</p>
<p>I never lose my credit card, so passwindow is a very good fix for now, in my not so humble opinion. I would think even more sophistication could be added with nano-circuitry, that would be powered by the same cheap solar cells used in calculators and wrist watches. Perhaps this could future proof the concept?</p>
<p>Chip and PIN has already been defeated by several attack methods by crackers, some of them involving a simple paper clip. Having an expensive system like that defeated so quickly with all the expense that went into it, is why US banks are so timid to try that kind of technology. I can&#8217;t say I blame them.</p>
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