Comments on: Yep, There’s a Patch for That http://krebsonsecurity.com/2010/03/yep-theres-a-patch-for-that/ In-depth security news and investigation Sat, 11 Feb 2012 19:29:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: JCitizen http://krebsonsecurity.com/2010/03/yep-theres-a-patch-for-that/comment-page-2/#comment-3528 JCitizen Wed, 10 Mar 2010 04:32:48 +0000 http://www.krebsonsecurity.com/?p=1463#comment-3528 In advanced mode you can also submit files you think should be added to their watch list, and they encourage it! There is really nothing quite like if for security professionals. In advanced mode you can also submit files you think should be added to their watch list, and they encourage it! There is really nothing quite like if for security professionals.

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]]> By: I Really Don’t Get Computer Users or I’m Just Misunderstood. « Mack Diesel’s Musings http://krebsonsecurity.com/2010/03/yep-theres-a-patch-for-that/comment-page-2/#comment-3517 I Really Don’t Get Computer Users or I’m Just Misunderstood. « Mack Diesel’s Musings Wed, 10 Mar 2010 02:20:45 +0000 http://www.krebsonsecurity.com/?p=1463#comment-3517 [...] these are typically patched within hours.  Meanwhile, Windows users can feel secure knowing that they have to patch about every five days on average just to be ’secure.’  At least until the next hole is found and either Microsoft or [...] [...] these are typically patched within hours.  Meanwhile, Windows users can feel secure knowing that they have to patch about every five days on average just to be ’secure.’  At least until the next hole is found and either Microsoft or [...]

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]]> By: Dewi Morgan http://krebsonsecurity.com/2010/03/yep-theres-a-patch-for-that/comment-page-2/#comment-3431 Dewi Morgan Tue, 09 Mar 2010 05:50:45 +0000 http://www.krebsonsecurity.com/?p=1463#comment-3431 Ah, the PSI has an "advanced" mode, which shows everything I wanted, and everything I didn't know I wanted, and also finds many more apps. Yay! Ah, the PSI has an “advanced” mode, which shows everything I wanted, and everything I didn’t know I wanted, and also finds many more apps. Yay!

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]]> By: Dewi Morgan http://krebsonsecurity.com/2010/03/yep-theres-a-patch-for-that/comment-page-2/#comment-3427 Dewi Morgan Tue, 09 Mar 2010 05:14:52 +0000 http://www.krebsonsecurity.com/?p=1463#comment-3427 Thank you! I guess my codemonkey trade shows a tad. My current official job title as listed in credits is "Senior Monkey Button Pusher": a jab at a previous job where we were all considered "junior monkey button pushers". I was interested that there were differences between Secunia's OSI, PSI and the Firefox plugin check at http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/plugincheck/ - I guess because one's working off versions reported in Javascript, and one is looking at the exes. Or maybe one only lists security updates, and one only lists major point updates. OSI and Mozilla both found three outdated apps, PSI found four, but they all only agreed on one: Flash. Still not *hugely* impressed, though: I've got a good few hundred apps accreted over the years, I'd expect it to find more than four outdated. It'd also be nice to see which apps it'd detected, so I'd know which ones I'd need to check manually. Still cool though. Thank you!

I guess my codemonkey trade shows a tad. My current official job title as listed in credits is “Senior Monkey Button Pusher”: a jab at a previous job where we were all considered “junior monkey button pushers”.

I was interested that there were differences between Secunia’s OSI, PSI and the Firefox plugin check at http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/plugincheck/ – I guess because one’s working off versions reported in Javascript, and one is looking at the exes. Or maybe one only lists security updates, and one only lists major point updates.

OSI and Mozilla both found three outdated apps, PSI found four, but they all only agreed on one: Flash.

Still not *hugely* impressed, though: I’ve got a good few hundred apps accreted over the years, I’d expect it to find more than four outdated. It’d also be nice to see which apps it’d detected, so I’d know which ones I’d need to check manually.

Still cool though.

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]]> By: JCitizen http://krebsonsecurity.com/2010/03/yep-theres-a-patch-for-that/comment-page-2/#comment-3424 JCitizen Tue, 09 Mar 2010 04:11:21 +0000 http://www.krebsonsecurity.com/?p=1463#comment-3424 Thank you for your participation here Dewi! I'm sure we all look forward to future discussions with you! We all love IT here! :) It is the nature of almost all IT people to be exacting in every detail, in which I'm sure you have the highest skills! If you are not in that venerable profession, you would be exceedingly proficient at it, by all my best estimates. Thank you for your participation here Dewi! I’m sure we all look forward to future discussions with you! We all love IT here! :)

It is the nature of almost all IT people to be exacting in every detail, in which I’m sure you have the highest skills! If you are not in that venerable profession, you would be exceedingly proficient at it, by all my best estimates.

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]]> By: Patrick http://krebsonsecurity.com/2010/03/yep-theres-a-patch-for-that/comment-page-1/#comment-3395 Patrick Mon, 08 Mar 2010 12:25:05 +0000 http://www.krebsonsecurity.com/?p=1463#comment-3395 That's exactly spot on - Defense in Depth. There are just too many people out there who do not keep their software updated or do not know how to do so for reasons of: == No time == Lack of skills/capability == Scared of updating their PC == The person thinks they are so super-advanced that they know what they're doing when they really don't or == The PC is too old to keep reliably updated This nonsense about moving away from Windows to other OSs to resolve the issue is, well, you've all read the various low rated comments I'm sure. That’s exactly spot on – Defense in Depth.

There are just too many people out there who do not keep their software updated or do not know how to do so for reasons of:
== No time
== Lack of skills/capability
== Scared of updating their PC
== The person thinks they are so super-advanced that they know what they’re doing when they really don’t or
== The PC is too old to keep reliably updated

This nonsense about moving away from Windows to other OSs to resolve the issue is, well, you’ve all read the various low rated comments I’m sure.

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]]> By: Dewi Morgan http://krebsonsecurity.com/2010/03/yep-theres-a-patch-for-that/comment-page-2/#comment-3392 Dewi Morgan Mon, 08 Mar 2010 05:48:04 +0000 http://www.krebsonsecurity.com/?p=1463#comment-3392 I stand corrected on the attribution, then. And no, I don't care that much, and I'm feeling increasingly uncomfortable to have so derailed the topic. I shoulda known better, and I'm sorry. I completely agree that keeping our machines secure and up to date is the important thing here. I'm playing with the "OSI" on their site: just started it running, and I'm interested in what it finds. And yeah: I always thought it'd be "Yahooing". Or even "Archieing", back before the web. I stand corrected on the attribution, then. And no, I don’t care that much, and I’m feeling increasingly uncomfortable to have so derailed the topic. I shoulda known better, and I’m sorry.

I completely agree that keeping our machines secure and up to date is the important thing here. I’m playing with the “OSI” on their site: just started it running, and I’m interested in what it finds.

And yeah: I always thought it’d be “Yahooing”. Or even “Archieing”, back before the web.

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]]> By: JCitizen http://krebsonsecurity.com/2010/03/yep-theres-a-patch-for-that/comment-page-2/#comment-3390 JCitizen Mon, 08 Mar 2010 04:57:38 +0000 http://www.krebsonsecurity.com/?p=1463#comment-3390 If you do a google for that exact phrase, you will find many references to Thomas as the source. I suspect some of them are simply typos or misquotes; but really are we so anal that we REALLY care!!? I'd say the subject at hand is more important, than a bunch of stuffy English teachers! Language is not a set thing, it is dynamic; who would have thought "Google" would be a verb, just a few years ago? If you do a google for that exact phrase, you will find many references to Thomas as the source. I suspect some of them are simply typos or misquotes; but really are we so anal that we REALLY care!!?

I’d say the subject at hand is more important, than a bunch of stuffy English teachers!

Language is not a set thing, it is dynamic; who would have thought “Google” would be a verb, just a few years ago?

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]]> By: lofti http://krebsonsecurity.com/2010/03/yep-theres-a-patch-for-that/comment-page-1/#comment-3389 lofti Mon, 08 Mar 2010 04:54:21 +0000 http://www.krebsonsecurity.com/?p=1463#comment-3389 We all know that Shakespeare made up all kinds of stuff :-). Thanks for the history, every time I think I'm beginning to understand my native tongue I'm blindsided. Ain't it great? We all know that Shakespeare made up all kinds of stuff :-) . Thanks for the history, every time I think I’m beginning to understand my native tongue I’m blindsided. Ain’t it great?

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]]> By: lofti" http://krebsonsecurity.com/2010/03/yep-theres-a-patch-for-that/comment-page-1/#comment-3388 lofti" Mon, 08 Mar 2010 04:44:58 +0000 http://www.krebsonsecurity.com/?p=1463#comment-3388 Correct! If using "she" or "he" is offensive then one is left with "he/she" or a variation there of. Using "their" instead of he or she when a singular pronoun is required bugs me. Correct! If using “she” or “he” is offensive then one is left with “he/she” or a variation there of. Using “their” instead of he or she when a singular pronoun is required bugs me.

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