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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://krebsonsecurity.com/2010/06/microsoft-apple-ship-big-security-updates/comment-page-1/#comment-6766</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 14:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you tried OpenOffice from Oracle? It&#039;s free, just google it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you tried OpenOffice from Oracle? It&#8217;s free, just google it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Schulz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Schulz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 12:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I took the &quot;short of...&quot; route: installed Office 2007 trial.  Three update  / reboot cycles later, Windows Update finally seems happy.  For that, I get to pay Microsoft in August.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I took the &#8220;short of&#8230;&#8221; route: installed Office 2007 trial.  Three update  / reboot cycles later, Windows Update finally seems happy.  For that, I get to pay Microsoft in August.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Schulz</title>
		<link>http://krebsonsecurity.com/2010/06/microsoft-apple-ship-big-security-updates/comment-page-1/#comment-6758</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Schulz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 09:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>XP 32-bit here. Windows updates keep asking for my Office 2003 .msi file, which I cannot find.  (I simply do not recall how/when I installed Office.)  After reboot, I can no longer open Excel files!  It goes directly to Windows Installer, from which I Cancel.  Any help (short of purchasing fresh media for MS Office) is appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>XP 32-bit here. Windows updates keep asking for my Office 2003 .msi file, which I cannot find.  (I simply do not recall how/when I installed Office.)  After reboot, I can no longer open Excel files!  It goes directly to Windows Installer, from which I Cancel.  Any help (short of purchasing fresh media for MS Office) is appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Higdon</title>
		<link>http://krebsonsecurity.com/2010/06/microsoft-apple-ship-big-security-updates/comment-page-1/#comment-6747</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Higdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 03:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: &quot;As usual, please drop a note in the comments below if you experience any problems as a result of installing these updates.&quot;

Waited three days, followed the thread above, held my breath and downloaded/installed from the update icon (I disabled automatic update-install years ago).  Running XP home/SP3.  Just restarted.  Everything A-OK.  Looking forward to the the day--if it ever arrives--when MS updates can be downloaded and installed without angst or drama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: &#8220;As usual, please drop a note in the comments below if you experience any problems as a result of installing these updates.&#8221;</p>
<p>Waited three days, followed the thread above, held my breath and downloaded/installed from the update icon (I disabled automatic update-install years ago).  Running XP home/SP3.  Just restarted.  Everything A-OK.  Looking forward to the the day&#8211;if it ever arrives&#8211;when MS updates can be downloaded and installed without angst or drama.</p>
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		<title>By: JCitizen</title>
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		<dc:creator>JCitizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 18:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All updates marked as important or critical should be considered as such. If you are manually updating, the only non-critical patches, that I feel are necessary, are root certificate udpates; and those can help you keep out of browser troubles with nefarious sites.

Microsoft&#039;s baseline security analyzer may help you determine this, and how to correct it; BelArc Adviser could help, but it is usually more beneficial for XP Pro users.

I&#039;ve never had any problem getting free update support from Microsoft, even if your operating system is not a paid support version. Just call them and say it is an update issue, and they should be able to help you free of charge.

Only main stream support has ended:

http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2009/04/windows-xp-mainstream-support-retired-but-no-need-to-worry.ars</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All updates marked as important or critical should be considered as such. If you are manually updating, the only non-critical patches, that I feel are necessary, are root certificate udpates; and those can help you keep out of browser troubles with nefarious sites.</p>
<p>Microsoft&#8217;s baseline security analyzer may help you determine this, and how to correct it; BelArc Adviser could help, but it is usually more beneficial for XP Pro users.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never had any problem getting free update support from Microsoft, even if your operating system is not a paid support version. Just call them and say it is an update issue, and they should be able to help you free of charge.</p>
<p>Only main stream support has ended:</p>
<p><a href="http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2009/04/windows-xp-mainstream-support-retired-but-no-need-to-worry.ars" rel="nofollow">http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2009/04/windows-xp-mainstream-support-retired-but-no-need-to-worry.ars</a></p>
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		<title>By: jxl2</title>
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		<dc:creator>jxl2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 18:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I downloaded the patches for &#039;patch Tuesday&#039; on Thursday morning, at least I think I did.  I have my system [Win XP, SP2, home ed.] on automatic download, except that I get to see the patches first before I allow the downloads; so I allowed all 12 patches.  The system did not download the patches.  I waited one day and then this morning I downloaded all the patches manually from the MS download website.  When I checked the control panel to see if the installations took effect, I noticed a file I did not download:  KB976769v2, under the Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0, SP@ banner.

I searched under the MS downloads page to see what it was, but I could not find it.

Did anybody else get this patch too?  Does anyone know what it does? and should I keep it or remove it?

Any advice appreciated.  thanks . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I downloaded the patches for &#8216;patch Tuesday&#8217; on Thursday morning, at least I think I did.  I have my system [Win XP, SP2, home ed.] on automatic download, except that I get to see the patches first before I allow the downloads; so I allowed all 12 patches.  The system did not download the patches.  I waited one day and then this morning I downloaded all the patches manually from the MS download website.  When I checked the control panel to see if the installations took effect, I noticed a file I did not download:  KB976769v2, under the Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0, SP@ banner.</p>
<p>I searched under the MS downloads page to see what it was, but I could not find it.</p>
<p>Did anybody else get this patch too?  Does anyone know what it does? and should I keep it or remove it?</p>
<p>Any advice appreciated.  thanks . . .</p>
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		<title>By: JCitizen</title>
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		<dc:creator>JCitizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 03:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Win Vista x64 working fine so far; couldn&#039;t help notice, they still haven&#039;t done anything with cross scripting for IE? Or that was a new one - cross site direction?

Maybe they think it is minor, but I think it is scurrilous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Win Vista x64 working fine so far; couldn&#8217;t help notice, they still haven&#8217;t done anything with cross scripting for IE? Or that was a new one &#8211; cross site direction?</p>
<p>Maybe they think it is minor, but I think it is scurrilous.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 19:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am in the midst of dealing with a similar problem so here&#039;s what I know to do so far: 
1. First retrieve the error code associated with the installation failure: go to Update_History and click on the failed-download Status icon (red circle with X) and an error page will open. You might want to try the Find_Solutions link on the error page first and see if your error code is listed and has a solution (mine wasn&#039;t). 
2. If the above fails, call Microsoft at 1-866-PCSAFETY (free help for security issues). What they told me to do was download/run uninstall and cleanup tools to remove .NET Framework altogether, reinstall it using a standalone exe, and then re-do Windows_Update but emailed a broken link and confusing instructions. I&#039;ve just emailed them back. YMMV. 
The good news is I&#039;ll be drinking beer shortly. Best of luck to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am in the midst of dealing with a similar problem so here&#8217;s what I know to do so far:<br />
1. First retrieve the error code associated with the installation failure: go to Update_History and click on the failed-download Status icon (red circle with X) and an error page will open. You might want to try the Find_Solutions link on the error page first and see if your error code is listed and has a solution (mine wasn&#8217;t).<br />
2. If the above fails, call Microsoft at 1-866-PCSAFETY (free help for security issues). What they told me to do was download/run uninstall and cleanup tools to remove .NET Framework altogether, reinstall it using a standalone exe, and then re-do Windows_Update but emailed a broken link and confusing instructions. I&#8217;ve just emailed them back. YMMV.<br />
The good news is I&#8217;ll be drinking beer shortly. Best of luck to you.</p>
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		<title>By: BrianKrebs</title>
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		<dc:creator>BrianKrebs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter -- As I wrote above, if you use Office XP, you may need to use Microsoft&#039;s &quot;FixIt&quot; tool, which is separate and apart from the normal patch download and install process.

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&quot;Microsoft notes that Office XP users may not be able to install one of the needed updates; Rather, Redmond is releasing what it calls a “shim,” or essentially and point-and-click “FixIt” tool that apparently does the job. If you use Office XP, go ahead and click the “FixIt” icon at this link when you’re done installing the rest of the updates.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter &#8212; As I wrote above, if you use Office XP, you may need to use Microsoft&#8217;s &#8220;FixIt&#8221; tool, which is separate and apart from the normal patch download and install process.</p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p>&#8220;Microsoft notes that Office XP users may not be able to install one of the needed updates; Rather, Redmond is releasing what it calls a “shim,” or essentially and point-and-click “FixIt” tool that apparently does the job. If you use Office XP, go ahead and click the “FixIt” icon at this link when you’re done installing the rest of the updates.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: David Chasey</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Chasey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The update to NET Framework 3.x continually has failed to install. Any suggestions, anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The update to NET Framework 3.x continually has failed to install. Any suggestions, anyone?</p>
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