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		<title>By: Nick P</title>
		<link>http://krebsonsecurity.com/2011/10/shady-reshipping-centers-exposed-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-32517</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 17:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perfect example for you, bt.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perfect example for you, bt.</p>
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		<title>By: ricof</title>
		<link>http://krebsonsecurity.com/2011/10/shady-reshipping-centers-exposed-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-32483</link>
		<dc:creator>ricof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 12:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just speaking for myself, the answer is in the first two sentences of your comment. The second sentence contradicts the first. The remainder of your comment is not relevant to the post with which you disagree in your first sentence and then subsequently concur in the second sentence.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just speaking for myself, the answer is in the first two sentences of your comment. The second sentence contradicts the first. The remainder of your comment is not relevant to the post with which you disagree in your first sentence and then subsequently concur in the second sentence.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick P</title>
		<link>http://krebsonsecurity.com/2011/10/shady-reshipping-centers-exposed-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-32432</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 03:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good question. This happens a lot on this blog. Those troll-like, non-contributing readers also rarely specific any counter-arguments or even alternative proposals. Fortunately, the good journalism &amp; certain contributing readers keep me coming back here. The down-voting trolls might also be coming here from Slashdot. Just what I&#039;d expect from that crowd.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good question. This happens a lot on this blog. Those troll-like, non-contributing readers also rarely specific any counter-arguments or even alternative proposals. Fortunately, the good journalism &amp; certain contributing readers keep me coming back here. The down-voting trolls might also be coming here from Slashdot. Just what I&#8217;d expect from that crowd.</p>
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		<title>By: bt</title>
		<link>http://krebsonsecurity.com/2011/10/shady-reshipping-centers-exposed-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-32309</link>
		<dc:creator>bt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Oct 2011 06:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why the fuck are people down-voting you?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why the fuck are people down-voting you?</p>
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		<title>By: Nick P</title>
		<link>http://krebsonsecurity.com/2011/10/shady-reshipping-centers-exposed-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-32296</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Oct 2011 04:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree it matters to you, but please
no spam, on topic &amp; sensible english]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree it matters to you, but please<br />
no spam, on topic &amp; sensible english</p>
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		<title>By: Nick P</title>
		<link>http://krebsonsecurity.com/2011/10/shady-reshipping-centers-exposed-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-32259</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2011 14:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s not a good thing. It means [likely] they relocated the sites. Now, they have to be found again. Their forums infiltrated again (will be easier though). They might have also read his comment about how he&#039;s compromised their site &amp; corrected the vulnerability. The good news is he might have disrupted their business a bit &amp; given the police more to go on. And more awareness.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not a good thing. It means [likely] they relocated the sites. Now, they have to be found again. Their forums infiltrated again (will be easier though). They might have also read his comment about how he&#8217;s compromised their site &amp; corrected the vulnerability. The good news is he might have disrupted their business a bit &amp; given the police more to go on. And more awareness.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick P</title>
		<link>http://krebsonsecurity.com/2011/10/shady-reshipping-centers-exposed-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-32258</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2011 14:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with your recommendations. The part that befuddles me is where you say &quot;financial experts&quot; tell people to use a debit &amp; not a credit card. Are you talking about people try to tell people how to stay out of debt? The one card expert I know of wrote a book called &quot;Credit Card Secrets.&quot; 

In it, he encouraged use of credit card over debit for these exact reasons. He also added that using a rewards card &amp; paying off balance regularly essentially makes you money. He also mentioned that credit cards have more legal protections than debit cards, particularly the stop payment methods &amp; the $50 max liability. So, yes, nobody should be using debit cards at stores AT ALL if they&#039;re concerned about crooks getting their card number.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your recommendations. The part that befuddles me is where you say &#8220;financial experts&#8221; tell people to use a debit &amp; not a credit card. Are you talking about people try to tell people how to stay out of debt? The one card expert I know of wrote a book called &#8220;Credit Card Secrets.&#8221; </p>
<p>In it, he encouraged use of credit card over debit for these exact reasons. He also added that using a rewards card &amp; paying off balance regularly essentially makes you money. He also mentioned that credit cards have more legal protections than debit cards, particularly the stop payment methods &amp; the $50 max liability. So, yes, nobody should be using debit cards at stores AT ALL if they&#8217;re concerned about crooks getting their card number.</p>
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		<title>By: AlphaCentauri</title>
		<link>http://krebsonsecurity.com/2011/10/shady-reshipping-centers-exposed-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-32143</link>
		<dc:creator>AlphaCentauri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2011 01:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s a pain having all the people on the credit card account (you and your spouse, typically) take off work to visit a notary public to sign a form attesting that you didn&#039;t make the fraudulent charges. A lot of working people can&#039;t take time off work so easily, and they will lose wages if they do.  It also lowers your credit score, so if you are taking out a loan, it could cost you dearly in extra interest over the life of the loan.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a pain having all the people on the credit card account (you and your spouse, typically) take off work to visit a notary public to sign a form attesting that you didn&#8217;t make the fraudulent charges. A lot of working people can&#8217;t take time off work so easily, and they will lose wages if they do.  It also lowers your credit score, so if you are taking out a loan, it could cost you dearly in extra interest over the life of the loan.</p>
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		<title>By: T.Anne</title>
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		<dc:creator>T.Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 13:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just because you don&#039;t have to pay for it doesn&#039;t mean someone else won&#039;t... besides that - you should care about the hassle to yourself if nothing else. 

It&#039;s the thought of, &quot;it&#039;s not my problem&quot; that allows this to be such an issue. Stores thought it wasn&#039;t their issue, CC companies and banks got tired of that and are now holding them responsible (well, working on it at least). Consumers think it because they have 0 liability... but that could change someday too if everyone just doesn&#039;t care... someone&#039;s losing money and you can bet they&#039;ll be finding ways to get it back. Even if it&#039;s just higher interest rates or yearly fees to start with.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just because you don&#8217;t have to pay for it doesn&#8217;t mean someone else won&#8217;t&#8230; besides that &#8211; you should care about the hassle to yourself if nothing else. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s the thought of, &#8220;it&#8217;s not my problem&#8221; that allows this to be such an issue. Stores thought it wasn&#8217;t their issue, CC companies and banks got tired of that and are now holding them responsible (well, working on it at least). Consumers think it because they have 0 liability&#8230; but that could change someday too if everyone just doesn&#8217;t care&#8230; someone&#8217;s losing money and you can bet they&#8217;ll be finding ways to get it back. Even if it&#8217;s just higher interest rates or yearly fees to start with.</p>
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		<title>By: T.Anne</title>
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		<dc:creator>T.Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 13:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I do agree that the odds of actually getting those responsible are very low. However, I would wonder if we started going after the mules/drops that are in this country, then wouldn&#039;t that kind of help prevent the issue? Or at least decrease the problem?

I know some people really think they&#039;re doing something legit - but I would also think that most at least have a funny feeling about it if not completely know that it&#039;s wrong and just don&#039;t care as long as it&#039;s lining their pockets... if they could get in trouble for it though, people might at least think more before doing it (assuming it&#039;s not just a small slap on the wrist).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do agree that the odds of actually getting those responsible are very low. However, I would wonder if we started going after the mules/drops that are in this country, then wouldn&#8217;t that kind of help prevent the issue? Or at least decrease the problem?</p>
<p>I know some people really think they&#8217;re doing something legit &#8211; but I would also think that most at least have a funny feeling about it if not completely know that it&#8217;s wrong and just don&#8217;t care as long as it&#8217;s lining their pockets&#8230; if they could get in trouble for it though, people might at least think more before doing it (assuming it&#8217;s not just a small slap on the wrist).</p>
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