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		<title>By: Alec Tronic</title>
		<link>http://krebsonsecurity.com/2012/08/triple-ddos-vs-krebsonsecurity/comment-page-1/#comment-99104</link>
		<dc:creator>Alec Tronic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2012 20:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why people always like to compare the computer stuff with real world stuff?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why people always like to compare the computer stuff with real world stuff?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Lewis Bagley,II</title>
		<link>http://krebsonsecurity.com/2012/08/triple-ddos-vs-krebsonsecurity/comment-page-1/#comment-97015</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Lewis Bagley,II</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 22:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sorry, I guess I always look for simple solutions, Too I thank you for all information. It has caused to spend some considerable time and research looking for a solution to the password difficulies.
 9/23
The Analogy is simple: When one enters or leaves a foreign country you need certain formal documents, 

A.	 -Passport, up to date with the following information;
B.	 -Your photograph
C.	 -Country of origin, 
D.	 -Place last visited 
E.	 -Record of inoculations, 
F.	 -Purpose of visit, etc.  

If paperwork is in order you are allowed to proceed. Your papers are stamped, given a formal recorded number and in many places a photographic record is made.  If not, you are shuttled aside until closer inspection can be made or you are refused entry. 

In the event of unexpected numbers additional resource are brought to bear. (DOS)

How can we compare this to incoming Internet traffic?

A -Passport, 
Incoming: Internet Border Control should have one job, a single mandate at all its various locations, to inspect incoming traffic all hours, all days! If an unexpected large number requesting entry appear (DOS), first you bring up system reserve forces to bear, if still overwhelmed, you turn your attention to those with current documents, active certificate and or a history of activity, and site “White Paper” listings, these are moved to front; those without proper ID papers are shuttled aside or denied until traffic thins.

B –Company Certificate* and Country of origin, 
Obviously, known trouble areas are given more through screening, particularly when routed through multiple sites (Records of Routing)

C -Record of inoculations,
Malware, Virus Products used; date last run; Certification granted with verifiable dated serial #

D -Country last visited, or origination 
Out of country should receive a visitor tag and record of size of file incoming and out-going / Permit expiration 

E -Purpose of visit, etc.
Business, Banking, Research,   

F -Security Dogs (SNIFFERS) 
Continually updated to detect malware, Trojans, Zeus etc. and all their various families as they are identified

		G -White Paper Listings*
	Continually updated list of account names that company does business with.
	
	I.E.	
Aberdeen Components Int’l
		Contact Person:
		Company ID/ Recorded Certificate Number / Your Assigned File #
Street Address / POB
		City, State, Country Zip Code –ID code
		Business Bank – ID # Persons to contact
		Envoy Status]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry, I guess I always look for simple solutions, Too I thank you for all information. It has caused to spend some considerable time and research looking for a solution to the password difficulies.<br />
 9/23<br />
The Analogy is simple: When one enters or leaves a foreign country you need certain formal documents, </p>
<p>A.	 -Passport, up to date with the following information;<br />
B.	 -Your photograph<br />
C.	 -Country of origin,<br />
D.	 -Place last visited<br />
E.	 -Record of inoculations,<br />
F.	 -Purpose of visit, etc.  </p>
<p>If paperwork is in order you are allowed to proceed. Your papers are stamped, given a formal recorded number and in many places a photographic record is made.  If not, you are shuttled aside until closer inspection can be made or you are refused entry. </p>
<p>In the event of unexpected numbers additional resource are brought to bear. (DOS)</p>
<p>How can we compare this to incoming Internet traffic?</p>
<p>A -Passport,<br />
Incoming: Internet Border Control should have one job, a single mandate at all its various locations, to inspect incoming traffic all hours, all days! If an unexpected large number requesting entry appear (DOS), first you bring up system reserve forces to bear, if still overwhelmed, you turn your attention to those with current documents, active certificate and or a history of activity, and site “White Paper” listings, these are moved to front; those without proper ID papers are shuttled aside or denied until traffic thins.</p>
<p>B –Company Certificate* and Country of origin,<br />
Obviously, known trouble areas are given more through screening, particularly when routed through multiple sites (Records of Routing)</p>
<p>C -Record of inoculations,<br />
Malware, Virus Products used; date last run; Certification granted with verifiable dated serial #</p>
<p>D -Country last visited, or origination<br />
Out of country should receive a visitor tag and record of size of file incoming and out-going / Permit expiration </p>
<p>E -Purpose of visit, etc.<br />
Business, Banking, Research,   </p>
<p>F -Security Dogs (SNIFFERS)<br />
Continually updated to detect malware, Trojans, Zeus etc. and all their various families as they are identified</p>
<p>		G -White Paper Listings*<br />
	Continually updated list of account names that company does business with.</p>
<p>	I.E.<br />
Aberdeen Components Int’l<br />
		Contact Person:<br />
		Company ID/ Recorded Certificate Number / Your Assigned File #<br />
Street Address / POB<br />
		City, State, Country Zip Code –ID code<br />
		Business Bank – ID # Persons to contact<br />
		Envoy Status</p>
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		<title>By: BrianKrebs</title>
		<link>http://krebsonsecurity.com/2012/08/triple-ddos-vs-krebsonsecurity/comment-page-1/#comment-96992</link>
		<dc:creator>BrianKrebs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 20:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why would I want to do that? What&#039;s the point?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would I want to do that? What&#8217;s the point?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Lewis Bagley,II</title>
		<link>http://krebsonsecurity.com/2012/08/triple-ddos-vs-krebsonsecurity/comment-page-1/#comment-96977</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Lewis Bagley,II</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 20:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[continued:
4. Could you establish and require a password system.

With your permission, I would like to send you a proposal I authored a while back.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>continued:<br />
4. Could you establish and require a password system.</p>
<p>With your permission, I would like to send you a proposal I authored a while back.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Lewis Bagley,II</title>
		<link>http://krebsonsecurity.com/2012/08/triple-ddos-vs-krebsonsecurity/comment-page-1/#comment-96968</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Lewis Bagley,II</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 19:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brian, 

1.What are the preset rules?
2. Is there a way to shunt duplicate messages to the side?
3. It would appear that most of these DDos are coming from offshore accounts, Is there a way to treat them as foreign visitors requiring proper IDs, both from their sending site and recognition from the receiving site?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian, </p>
<p>1.What are the preset rules?<br />
2. Is there a way to shunt duplicate messages to the side?<br />
3. It would appear that most of these DDos are coming from offshore accounts, Is there a way to treat them as foreign visitors requiring proper IDs, both from their sending site and recognition from the receiving site?</p>
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		<title>By: johnny rambo</title>
		<link>http://krebsonsecurity.com/2012/08/triple-ddos-vs-krebsonsecurity/comment-page-1/#comment-96242</link>
		<dc:creator>johnny rambo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2012 18:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[the point in not to  destroy  this  beautiful  website  ( gold mind for a web criminals ) but to  make Brain  waist  his time i think ..  as u  can  see  its getting more and more personal  .first  it was Email  flood now  its D-dos attack  very  soon  every  article in this blog will  be about Brian and his struggle  to  defeat the world  .)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the point in not to  destroy  this  beautiful  website  ( gold mind for a web criminals ) but to  make Brain  waist  his time i think ..  as u  can  see  its getting more and more personal  .first  it was Email  flood now  its D-dos attack  very  soon  every  article in this blog will  be about Brian and his struggle  to  defeat the world  .)</p>
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		<title>By: BrianKrebs</title>
		<link>http://krebsonsecurity.com/2012/08/triple-ddos-vs-krebsonsecurity/comment-page-1/#comment-96233</link>
		<dc:creator>BrianKrebs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2012 18:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nobody deleted your comment. And posting personal information? I posted what was in the WHOIS for that domain name. WHOIS is public information.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nobody deleted your comment. And posting personal information? I posted what was in the WHOIS for that domain name. WHOIS is public information.</p>
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		<title>By: Tha Sneak</title>
		<link>http://krebsonsecurity.com/2012/08/triple-ddos-vs-krebsonsecurity/comment-page-1/#comment-96232</link>
		<dc:creator>Tha Sneak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2012 18:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like how you deleted my comment. All you want is attention. You don&#039;t deserve any credit over this. Its not like HackForums is a super secret underground site. Nobody there cares if you&#039;re a reporter or an FBI agent and I could care less either. A majority of HackForums is a bunch of teenagers who do nothing all day. All I do is remove malware. I could care less, my issue is personal information. You have no business posting it publicly, I don&#039;t care reporter or not. 

- Tha Sneak (6-year Computer Security veteran)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like how you deleted my comment. All you want is attention. You don&#8217;t deserve any credit over this. Its not like HackForums is a super secret underground site. Nobody there cares if you&#8217;re a reporter or an FBI agent and I could care less either. A majority of HackForums is a bunch of teenagers who do nothing all day. All I do is remove malware. I could care less, my issue is personal information. You have no business posting it publicly, I don&#8217;t care reporter or not. </p>
<p>- Tha Sneak (6-year Computer Security veteran)</p>
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		<title>By: Neej</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neej</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2012 09:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I see you like talking to yourself and rambling all over the place as well as making lulzy statements.  You&#039;re hilarious.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see you like talking to yourself and rambling all over the place as well as making lulzy statements.  You&#8217;re hilarious.</p>
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		<title>By: na</title>
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		<dc:creator>na</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2012 01:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Funny, you can use proxies to block comments you don&#039;t like neej. Are you sure you aren&#039;t related to the people behind the Attacks on the site? You sure seem to be about as intelligent as they are.

As I said before
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you really should take a few English classes. I’ll try to spell it out even slower for you. I’ve basically called the perpetrators behind the attack fools. They are not accomplishing anything (hence sticks @ cement). Not only have I associated their work with being a “pussy” at least where I come from that means the opposite of courageous. Generally people of this type like to hide behind others and think highly of themselves but don’t grasp the reality that they are really chicken shit.

So no I would not tend to associate such people with manhood or courage by any stretch of the imagination. I didn’t think I had to spell this out for you… Should I go one word per line or something for you to understand?

Now as to this comment of yours, do you even understand English? As I said I “my grandmother could pull more…” means they aint got shit. Then the other comment “if said people got annoyed…” I am talking about the kind of people you should be afraid of because they wouldn’t go after your site, they would drop your upstream provider. These of course should not be compared to the childish acts that have been performed as of late against Brian.

And no personally I feel DDoS is beneath me as it should be with most people that have dignity. So of course I wouldn’t go around attacking people. How does this make a comparison worthless? Do you even comprehend the words coming out of your mouth?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny, you can use proxies to block comments you don&#8217;t like neej. Are you sure you aren&#8217;t related to the people behind the Attacks on the site? You sure seem to be about as intelligent as they are.</p>
<p>As I said before<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
you really should take a few English classes. I’ll try to spell it out even slower for you. I’ve basically called the perpetrators behind the attack fools. They are not accomplishing anything (hence sticks @ cement). Not only have I associated their work with being a “pussy” at least where I come from that means the opposite of courageous. Generally people of this type like to hide behind others and think highly of themselves but don’t grasp the reality that they are really chicken shit.</p>
<p>So no I would not tend to associate such people with manhood or courage by any stretch of the imagination. I didn’t think I had to spell this out for you… Should I go one word per line or something for you to understand?</p>
<p>Now as to this comment of yours, do you even understand English? As I said I “my grandmother could pull more…” means they aint got shit. Then the other comment “if said people got annoyed…” I am talking about the kind of people you should be afraid of because they wouldn’t go after your site, they would drop your upstream provider. These of course should not be compared to the childish acts that have been performed as of late against Brian.</p>
<p>And no personally I feel DDoS is beneath me as it should be with most people that have dignity. So of course I wouldn’t go around attacking people. How does this make a comparison worthless? Do you even comprehend the words coming out of your mouth?<br />
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