Comments on: Critical Java Patch Plugs 30 Security Holes

By: TSP

TSP — Sat, 20 Oct 2012 03:08:53 +0000

If Java is not necessary then why is it installed on the pc?
I have had any security issues with it just keep getting a error the java script is not working properly. Not sure it is even related to this JAVA.

By: Doug

Doug — Sat, 20 Oct 2012 00:09:58 +0000

Thanks for thought, Tom. The full path is above in my first comment, I know how easy it is to miss those things.

Hilary provided an excellent link (below) – author acknowledges the icon disappearing on XP machines and much more.

By: Tom

Tom — Fri, 19 Oct 2012 20:53:57 +0000

Me too. However, the console is available as an executable through the directory starting at /program files/Java/. Sorry, I’m not at my home computer now or I would provide the entire path.

By: Doug

Doug — Fri, 19 Oct 2012 00:13:33 +0000

gtodon – question for you, am I right that you are using java 7 update 9? (You referred to it in the uninstall) My win 7 has vers 6 update 37, and, like your experience, the icon is still there. All the machines that lost the control panel icon were XP Pro and java vers 7 update 9.
Thanks.

By: Doug

Doug — Fri, 19 Oct 2012 00:07:24 +0000

gtodon – thanks for confirming it’s not just me!!

A work around is to use a Shortcut to “C:\Program Files\Java\jre7\bin\javacpl.cpl”

I have not yet tried an uninstall & full install to see if that will fix it – but I have downloaded the full install (Thanks to John (above) October 17, 2012 at 11:31 am who posted the link) & will eventually get around to it.

Andrew Zizzo – thanks for the info I think I will uninstall Java on 4 of 6 WinXP machines but you also called it – 2 of my machines use java for other programs.

bob – good suggestion, I am already using Libre on a Win7 machine and have no problems with it, knowing it is less reliant on java is making me want to switch to it on the XP machines too – just a matter time.

Thank you all.

By: gtodon

gtodon — Thu, 18 Oct 2012 22:24:52 +0000

Doug, I’m also running XP, and I also find that the Java icon no longer shows in Control Panel after the update. (On a Win7 machine, meanwhile, all is well.) This doesn’t mean, however, that Java has disappeared from your computers. Mine still has Java, though Control Panel doesn’t seem to know it. Check Add or Remove Programs and you’ll probably find Java 7 Update 9 there.

My guess is that the disappearance from Control Panel is just a temporary glitch. They’ll probably fix it with the next update.

By: Darren Martyn

Darren Martyn — Thu, 18 Oct 2012 20:20:03 +0000

Look, I can see what you mean about preferring the older one, but that nonsense about “not visiting untrustworthy sites” is pure BS. ANY site can be hijacked to serve up Blackhole at ANY time. How secure do you think the sites you browse are?

These days you have to assume ALL sites – even this one – have a hidden iFrame serving up some nasty content, and take reasonable precautions, which include keeping your shit up to date in order to prevent getting owned.

By: d

Thu, 18 Oct 2012 16:55:21 +0000

Maybe, but if your first Mac came with Lion, you don’t have to worry about Java, unless you installed it yourself.

By: Tom H

Tom H — Thu, 18 Oct 2012 12:27:13 +0000

Thanks for the clarification, Braden!

Sophos is reporting that Apple has released their Java 6 updated for OS X and it _removes_ the browser plugin altogether.

So, it seems OS X users who really want/need it in their browser will have to install Oracle’s Java 7 to get that functionality back.

By: Charlie

Charlie — Thu, 18 Oct 2012 12:26:35 +0000

I’m still using Leopard, because several programs that I use every day won’t function on the later versions of OSX. Some of these programs require costly upgrades to work with the newer system software; for other programs, the upgrades simply aren’t available (or weren’t the last time I checked).

I also agree with the comment above that the newer versions of OSX contain “some features that I absolutely abhor”, at least according to the publicity that Apple has sent out.