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	<title>Comments on: Shocking Delay in Fixing Adobe Shockwave Bug</title>
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		<title>By: JHH</title>
		<link>http://krebsonsecurity.com/2012/12/shocking-delay-in-fixing-adobe-shockwave-bug/comment-page-1/#comment-137622</link>
		<dc:creator>JHH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 01:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the link Vee!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link Vee!</p>
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		<title>By: Vee</title>
		<link>http://krebsonsecurity.com/2012/12/shocking-delay-in-fixing-adobe-shockwave-bug/comment-page-1/#comment-137195</link>
		<dc:creator>Vee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2012 18:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s an easy fix, just go: https://www.youtube.com/html5]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s an easy fix, just go: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/html5" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/html5</a></p>
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		<title>By: flavia</title>
		<link>http://krebsonsecurity.com/2012/12/shocking-delay-in-fixing-adobe-shockwave-bug/comment-page-1/#comment-137182</link>
		<dc:creator>flavia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2012 16:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guess I will just give up on watching you tube I am thinking about Netflix streaming video or movies but I am not sure?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I will just give up on watching you tube I am thinking about Netflix streaming video or movies but I am not sure?</p>
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		<title>By: Vee</title>
		<link>http://krebsonsecurity.com/2012/12/shocking-delay-in-fixing-adobe-shockwave-bug/comment-page-1/#comment-136767</link>
		<dc:creator>Vee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2012 16:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another area with games and plugins, a lot of highend games such as Crysis 2 use Autodesk Scaleform which -

&quot;enables developers to leverage the power of the Adobe® Flash® tool set to create powerful and immersive user interface environments for video games and beyond. Used in over 1000 titles across all major platforms ranging from AAA titles to casual games, Scaleform provides a streamlined solution to create hardware-accelerated 3D game menus, HUDs, animated textures, in-game videos and mini-games.&quot;

Meaning I&#039;m fairly certain these games won&#039;t work without Flash installed. 

Adobe AIR, Sims 3 uses that. Another huge fanbase. 

This crap just keeps leaking into areas where it isn&#039;t needed or wanted, but they will make sure it&#039;s required to run it though!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another area with games and plugins, a lot of highend games such as Crysis 2 use Autodesk Scaleform which -</p>
<p>&#8220;enables developers to leverage the power of the Adobe® Flash® tool set to create powerful and immersive user interface environments for video games and beyond. Used in over 1000 titles across all major platforms ranging from AAA titles to casual games, Scaleform provides a streamlined solution to create hardware-accelerated 3D game menus, HUDs, animated textures, in-game videos and mini-games.&#8221;</p>
<p>Meaning I&#8217;m fairly certain these games won&#8217;t work without Flash installed. </p>
<p>Adobe AIR, Sims 3 uses that. Another huge fanbase. </p>
<p>This crap just keeps leaking into areas where it isn&#8217;t needed or wanted, but they will make sure it&#8217;s required to run it though!</p>
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		<title>By: Vee</title>
		<link>http://krebsonsecurity.com/2012/12/shocking-delay-in-fixing-adobe-shockwave-bug/comment-page-1/#comment-136764</link>
		<dc:creator>Vee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2012 16:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another thing that keeps Java floating around are two majorly popular Java games, Runescape and Minecraft. Huge amount of players each. Minecraft just recently started alerting users if they&#039;re running Java 5 to update, but only due to newer game features requiring newer LWJGL. Not that it should be these games job to alert people of security updates, but still, just like Adobe&#039;s crap it&#039;s being pumped out to people who have no idea what version they&#039;re running or why it matters. 

Like everyone else, I still see computers from people with multiple versions of prehistoric Java and other plugins installed. That&#039;s one thing I do like about Linux, just run a quick &quot;yum update&quot; or the like and everything, plugins included are updated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another thing that keeps Java floating around are two majorly popular Java games, Runescape and Minecraft. Huge amount of players each. Minecraft just recently started alerting users if they&#8217;re running Java 5 to update, but only due to newer game features requiring newer LWJGL. Not that it should be these games job to alert people of security updates, but still, just like Adobe&#8217;s crap it&#8217;s being pumped out to people who have no idea what version they&#8217;re running or why it matters. </p>
<p>Like everyone else, I still see computers from people with multiple versions of prehistoric Java and other plugins installed. That&#8217;s one thing I do like about Linux, just run a quick &#8220;yum update&#8221; or the like and everything, plugins included are updated.</p>
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		<title>By: MC</title>
		<link>http://krebsonsecurity.com/2012/12/shocking-delay-in-fixing-adobe-shockwave-bug/comment-page-1/#comment-136491</link>
		<dc:creator>MC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2012 11:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How about using Gnash??]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about using Gnash??</p>
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		<title>By: AlphaCentauri</title>
		<link>http://krebsonsecurity.com/2012/12/shocking-delay-in-fixing-adobe-shockwave-bug/comment-page-1/#comment-136205</link>
		<dc:creator>AlphaCentauri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 18:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Greed becomes malice when your profit knowingly comes at the expense of someone else&#039;s forseeable injury.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greed becomes malice when your profit knowingly comes at the expense of someone else&#8217;s forseeable injury.</p>
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		<title>By: TJ</title>
		<link>http://krebsonsecurity.com/2012/12/shocking-delay-in-fixing-adobe-shockwave-bug/comment-page-1/#comment-136008</link>
		<dc:creator>TJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 19:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brian - FYI, the Flash Player plug-in in Opera is also referred to as  Shockwave Flash.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian &#8211; FYI, the Flash Player plug-in in Opera is also referred to as  Shockwave Flash.</p>
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		<title>By: TJ</title>
		<link>http://krebsonsecurity.com/2012/12/shocking-delay-in-fixing-adobe-shockwave-bug/comment-page-1/#comment-136006</link>
		<dc:creator>TJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 18:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Correction...Apparently Oracle has made some recent changes (at least for Windows 7). If you uninstall Java via Add/Remove, a Java  plugin does still reside on your system (as you&#039;ll see if you check the plugins menu within either Firefox or Opera). Depending on your system - 32 or 64 bit, the remaining plugin resides in one or more of the below locations. Once deleted, the Java plugin will no longer show up in your browser&#039;s plugin menu (after you close and reopen the browser).

I only have Windows 7 systems, so these instructions may only be applicable to Windows 7.

32bit systems
C:\Windows\System32\npDeployJava1.dll

64bit systems
C:\Windows\System32\npDeployJava1.dll
C:\Windows\SysWOW64\npDeployJava1.dll]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction&#8230;Apparently Oracle has made some recent changes (at least for Windows 7). If you uninstall Java via Add/Remove, a Java  plugin does still reside on your system (as you&#8217;ll see if you check the plugins menu within either Firefox or Opera). Depending on your system &#8211; 32 or 64 bit, the remaining plugin resides in one or more of the below locations. Once deleted, the Java plugin will no longer show up in your browser&#8217;s plugin menu (after you close and reopen the browser).</p>
<p>I only have Windows 7 systems, so these instructions may only be applicable to Windows 7.</p>
<p>32bit systems<br />
C:\Windows\System32\npDeployJava1.dll</p>
<p>64bit systems<br />
C:\Windows\System32\npDeployJava1.dll<br />
C:\Windows\SysWOW64\npDeployJava1.dll</p>
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		<title>By: TJ</title>
		<link>http://krebsonsecurity.com/2012/12/shocking-delay-in-fixing-adobe-shockwave-bug/comment-page-1/#comment-135994</link>
		<dc:creator>TJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 17:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If I remember correctly, even if you remove Java via Add/Remove, the plugin remains on your system. You can find the Java plugin file here:

32bit system
 C:\Program Files\Java\jre7\bin\plugin2\npjp2.dll

64bit system
 C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre7\bin\plugin2\npjp2.dll]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I remember correctly, even if you remove Java via Add/Remove, the plugin remains on your system. You can find the Java plugin file here:</p>
<p>32bit system<br />
 C:\Program Files\Java\jre7\bin\plugin2\npjp2.dll</p>
<p>64bit system<br />
 C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre7\bin\plugin2\npjp2.dll</p>
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