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		<title>By: Debbie Kearns</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debbie Kearns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 22:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wait a sec!  I never posted that!  Someone has been hacking into my profile and using my name to say naughty language and porn on you, which I did not!  :(  Does anyone know why?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait a sec!  I never posted that!  Someone has been hacking into my profile and using my name to say naughty language and porn on you, which I did not!  <img src='http://krebsonsecurity.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />   Does anyone know why?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Steven Hack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Steven Hack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 19:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Look into PatchMyPC.  It&#039;s not as comprehensive as some application update utilities, but it covers the main security offenders like Adobe Reader and a fair number of other applications as well.

http://patchmypc.net/

I usually install it on any new home user client I get and tell them to run every week or two to make sure they&#039;re up to date on critical security patches. Whether they remember to do it is another matter. I don&#039;t feel comfortable forcing a client to run it by automating the run.

However I see from the changed Web site that the dev is working on an automated solution for home users as well as one that works with Microsoft System Center.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look into PatchMyPC.  It&#8217;s not as comprehensive as some application update utilities, but it covers the main security offenders like Adobe Reader and a fair number of other applications as well.</p>
<p><a href="http://patchmypc.net/" rel="nofollow">http://patchmypc.net/</a></p>
<p>I usually install it on any new home user client I get and tell them to run every week or two to make sure they&#8217;re up to date on critical security patches. Whether they remember to do it is another matter. I don&#8217;t feel comfortable forcing a client to run it by automating the run.</p>
<p>However I see from the changed Web site that the dev is working on an automated solution for home users as well as one that works with Microsoft System Center.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Steven Hack</title>
		<link>http://krebsonsecurity.com/2013/02/microsoft-adobe-release-critical-security-updates/comment-page-1/#comment-153420</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Steven Hack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 19:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;In nearly every case where I’ve experienced problems updating Windows, a huge .NET patch somehow gummed up the works.&quot;

Yup.  .NET updates suck rocks. I don&#039;t know why this platform is harder to update than the ENTIRE OS, but it&#039;s definitely true.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In nearly every case where I’ve experienced problems updating Windows, a huge .NET patch somehow gummed up the works.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yup.  .NET updates suck rocks. I don&#8217;t know why this platform is harder to update than the ENTIRE OS, but it&#8217;s definitely true.</p>
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		<title>By: Dirgster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dirgster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 18:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brian, trying to stay safe, I can always depend on your knowledge and expertise when it comes to threats and critical updates.  I want to thank you for all your hard work!  By being informed of the latest security issues, you enable us to stay one step ahead of the bad guys, and I commend you for it!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian, trying to stay safe, I can always depend on your knowledge and expertise when it comes to threats and critical updates.  I want to thank you for all your hard work!  By being informed of the latest security issues, you enable us to stay one step ahead of the bad guys, and I commend you for it!</p>
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		<title>By: Vee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 15:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also replying to NetD as well. 

Yeah, I&#039;ve used Secunia PSI but I don&#039;t know if I like it for my own machine. I&#039;d use it on someone elses&#039; machine for sure if they had software I wasn&#039;t familiar with. I really like Qualys BrowserCheck and am forever grateful Krebs made me aware of it.

And Old School
I&#039;ve actually done that for some stuff, although now I want to do it for everything after reading that. 

Thanks guys for the replies. In an ideal world for me I wish Windows would handle software much like Linux distros or even the way Steam handles updates. Imagine if upon loading Windows everything was updated. Secunia PSI does come close I will say but I think it should be the Operating System&#039;s job to alert when possible. Then like Windows updates you could just set it to notify rather than automatically install. I hear Windows 8 is starting to do something like that already, but I get the feeling it still falls short and is limited. 

Be nice if either way we weren&#039;t forced to almost obsessive compulsively watch stuff, but I&#039;ve grown up with it and now sadly treat it as second nature. Good thing it pays off more than not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also replying to NetD as well. </p>
<p>Yeah, I&#8217;ve used Secunia PSI but I don&#8217;t know if I like it for my own machine. I&#8217;d use it on someone elses&#8217; machine for sure if they had software I wasn&#8217;t familiar with. I really like Qualys BrowserCheck and am forever grateful Krebs made me aware of it.</p>
<p>And Old School<br />
I&#8217;ve actually done that for some stuff, although now I want to do it for everything after reading that. </p>
<p>Thanks guys for the replies. In an ideal world for me I wish Windows would handle software much like Linux distros or even the way Steam handles updates. Imagine if upon loading Windows everything was updated. Secunia PSI does come close I will say but I think it should be the Operating System&#8217;s job to alert when possible. Then like Windows updates you could just set it to notify rather than automatically install. I hear Windows 8 is starting to do something like that already, but I get the feeling it still falls short and is limited. </p>
<p>Be nice if either way we weren&#8217;t forced to almost obsessive compulsively watch stuff, but I&#8217;ve grown up with it and now sadly treat it as second nature. Good thing it pays off more than not.</p>
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		<title>By: Old School</title>
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		<dc:creator>Old School</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 14:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Not the best way to do it, but I like it more than program update scanners which I find usually miss stuff. &quot; &quot;Not the best way&quot; is correct.  &quot;Probably the sure fire way is to go to every developers’ website and get it straight from the horse’s mouth, but a lot of times the version numbers are buried.&quot;  Also correct but with a little practice you will become accustomed to each vendor&#039;s format.    Always use primary, vendor sources.   For example Adobe has an &quot;about&quot; page for the Flash Player:  http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/.  Since there will be one URL for each program product you own, you will need a folder to store the URLs.   Go to the  Bookmark Toolbar  and add a folder to hold the URLs.   Call the folder &quot;Version Info&quot;.   Now you have a system that is both precise and free.   Next, you will have to run your system once a day or at an interval that is logical .   If you wish, you can &quot;upgrade&quot; your folder system to include URLs that have the download links.    For example, Adobe&#039;s Flash Player download page is http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/distribution3.html .     There is no charge for the upgrade!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Not the best way to do it, but I like it more than program update scanners which I find usually miss stuff. &#8221; &#8220;Not the best way&#8221; is correct.  &#8220;Probably the sure fire way is to go to every developers’ website and get it straight from the horse’s mouth, but a lot of times the version numbers are buried.&#8221;  Also correct but with a little practice you will become accustomed to each vendor&#8217;s format.    Always use primary, vendor sources.   For example Adobe has an &#8220;about&#8221; page for the Flash Player:  <a href="http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/" rel="nofollow">http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/</a>.  Since there will be one URL for each program product you own, you will need a folder to store the URLs.   Go to the  Bookmark Toolbar  and add a folder to hold the URLs.   Call the folder &#8220;Version Info&#8221;.   Now you have a system that is both precise and free.   Next, you will have to run your system once a day or at an interval that is logical .   If you wish, you can &#8220;upgrade&#8221; your folder system to include URLs that have the download links.    For example, Adobe&#8217;s Flash Player download page is <a href="http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/distribution3.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/distribution3.html</a> .     There is no charge for the upgrade!!!</p>
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		<title>By: NetD</title>
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		<dc:creator>NetD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 14:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Have you tried Secunia PSI?  It automates a large portion of application updating for you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you tried Secunia PSI?  It automates a large portion of application updating for you.</p>
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		<title>By: JimboC</title>
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		<dc:creator>JimboC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 13:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Sandy,

Uzzi is right. You should contact Microsoft Technical Support about this issue.

Please note that since you are experiencing issues with the security update that you mention, you should not be charged for technical support. Microsoft provides free support for issues caused by security updates.

Please quote the knowledge base article number of the update that is causing the installation, namely kb2758694.

You can contact Microsoft Support from the following link:

http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance

I hope this information is of assistance to you. Thank you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sandy,</p>
<p>Uzzi is right. You should contact Microsoft Technical Support about this issue.</p>
<p>Please note that since you are experiencing issues with the security update that you mention, you should not be charged for technical support. Microsoft provides free support for issues caused by security updates.</p>
<p>Please quote the knowledge base article number of the update that is causing the installation, namely kb2758694.</p>
<p>You can contact Microsoft Support from the following link:</p>
<p><a href="http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance" rel="nofollow">http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance</a></p>
<p>I hope this information is of assistance to you. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Vee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 12:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For that matter, I don&#039;t know if people in the comments here should be using usernames they use on other sites. Harassing a &quot;fanbase&quot; isn&#039;t exactly uncommon online. 

A thought of &quot;look at those krebtards, let&#039;s screw with them&quot; and a google search is all it really takes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For that matter, I don&#8217;t know if people in the comments here should be using usernames they use on other sites. Harassing a &#8220;fanbase&#8221; isn&#8217;t exactly uncommon online. </p>
<p>A thought of &#8220;look at those krebtards, let&#8217;s screw with them&#8221; and a google search is all it really takes.</p>
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		<title>By: Vee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 12:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks again for saving my sanity of not having to hunt down every single plugin to see what has updated every Tuesday. I used to use Wikipedia pages to see what stuff was updated (well I still do for some stuff) and usually I&#039;ve found someone has kept up with the latest version number. 

So say you have, oh I dunno, let&#039;s say 7-Zip. So you just go wikipedia.org/wiki/7-Zip and on the side there&#039;s &quot;Stable release&quot;. Then just compare it to what version you&#039;re running. Not the best way to do it, but I like it more than program update scanners which I find usually miss stuff. 

Probably the sure fire way is to go to every developers&#039; website and get it straight from the horse&#039;s mouth, but a lot of times the version numbers are buried.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks again for saving my sanity of not having to hunt down every single plugin to see what has updated every Tuesday. I used to use Wikipedia pages to see what stuff was updated (well I still do for some stuff) and usually I&#8217;ve found someone has kept up with the latest version number. </p>
<p>So say you have, oh I dunno, let&#8217;s say 7-Zip. So you just go wikipedia.org/wiki/7-Zip and on the side there&#8217;s &#8220;Stable release&#8221;. Then just compare it to what version you&#8217;re running. Not the best way to do it, but I like it more than program update scanners which I find usually miss stuff. </p>
<p>Probably the sure fire way is to go to every developers&#8217; website and get it straight from the horse&#8217;s mouth, but a lot of times the version numbers are buried.</p>
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