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		<title>McAfee False Detection Locks Up Windows XP</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 17:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>BrianKrebs</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[McAfee's anti-virus software is erroneously detecting legitimate Windows system files as malicious, causing reboot loops and serious stability problems for many Windows XP users, according to multiple reports.]]></description>
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<p><strong>McAfee</strong>&#8216;s anti-virus software is erroneously detecting legitimate Windows system files as malicious, causing reboot loops and serious stability problems for many Windows XP users, according to multiple reports.</p>
<p>The <strong>SANS Internet Storm Center</strong> has received <a href="http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=8656" target="_blank">dozens of reports</a> from McAfee users who complained that a recent anti-virus update (DAT 5958) is causing Windows xP Service Pack 3 clients to be locked out. According to SANS incident handler <strong>Johannes Ulllrich</strong>, McAfee is flagging &#8220;svchost.exe&#8221; as malicious. Svchost is a common system process typically used by multiple legitimate programs on a Windows system (although malware does often inject itself into this process), so having an anti-virus program that flags the process as a threat could cause major problems on a host system, Ullrich said.</p>
<p>&#8220;The [reports] keep coming in,&#8221; Ullrich said. &#8220;Systems either get stuck in a reboot loop, or networking is no longer working.&#8221;</p>
<p>One symptom seems to be that McAfee reports that user systems are infected with W32.Wecorl.a. The anti-virus program&#8217;s attempts to destroy or quarantine that targeted process then forces the Windows machine into a reboot cycle.</p>
<p>McAfee&#8217;s <a href="http://community.mcafee.com/thread/24056?tstart=0" target="_blank">own support forum</a> is currently queuing up with a large number of users piping in with stories about how the incident is affecting their operations. That thread,which began at 9:54 a.m. today, has more than 27,000 views and 83 replies.</p>
<p>Stay tuned for more updates as available.</p>
<p><strong>Update, 1:56 p.m. ET: </strong>McAfee released the following statement regarding this event. &#8220;McAfee is aware that a number of customers have incurred a false  positive error due to incorrect malware alerts on Wednesday, April 21.  The problem occurs with the 5958 virus definition file (DAT) that was  released on April 21 at 2.00 PM GMT+1 (6am Pacific Time).</p>
<p>Our initial investigation indicates that the error can result in  moderate to significant performance issues on systems running Windows XP  Service Pack 3.</p>
<p>The faulty update has been removed from McAfee download servers for  corporate users, preventing any further impact on those customers. We  are not aware of significant impact on consumer customers and believe we  have effectively limited such occurrence.</p>
<p>McAfee teams are working with the highest priority to support impacted  customers and plan to provide an update virus definition file shortly.  McAfee apologizes for any inconvenience to our customers.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Update, 3:51 p.m. ET:</strong> McAfee&#8217;s main support forum is down due to an &#8220;unusually large traffic.&#8221; McAfee has posted a separate thread <a href="http://vil.nai.com/vil/5958_false.htm" target="_blank">here</a> that includes a couple of workarounds for customers struggling to deal with this problem.</p>

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		<title>Secret Obsession: Odd Windows Crash Alerts</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>BrianKrebs</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Microsoft Windows isn't restricted to just laptops and tower PCs: It is also common for Windows to serve as the dominant operating system inside of ATMs, cars, kiosks, taxi meters, medical imaging devices, advertising display boards and so many of the computerized screens that we gaze upon and take for granted every day. That is, until they stop working. ]]></description>
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<p><strong>Microsoft Windows</strong> isn&#8217;t restricted to just laptops and tower PCs: It is also common for Windows to serve as the dominant operating system these days inside of ATMs, cars, vending machines, kiosks, taxi meters, medical imaging devices, advertising display boards and so many of the computerized screens that we gaze upon and take for granted every day.</p>
<p>That is, until they stop working. Indeed, often the first indication that these things are run by Windows is when something causes them to crash, at which point the all-too-familiar Windows error messages or dreaded <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Screen_of_Death" target="_blank">Blue Screen of Death</a> (BSoD) splashes up on the device&#8217;s display. True, malicious software can cause BSoDs, which is the operating system&#8217;s way of shutting down to prevent irreparable damage to the underlying system. Just as often, however, a BSoD or critical stop error is the result of some kind of hardware malfunction, such as faulty memory, a failing power supply, or overheating.</p>
<p>It seems I&#8217;ve been seeing these BSoDs and &#8220;fatal error&#8221; type messages in the oddest places lately. Below is a gallery of just a few that I&#8217;ve shot recently with my trusty iPhone (aside from that last three, which came from friends and readers). Click one of the images to cycle through a slideshow.</p>

<a href='http://krebsonsecurity.com/2010/03/secret-obsession-odd-windows-crash-alerts/iphonebsod/' title='iphonebsod'><img width="150" height="150" src="http://krebsonsecurity.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/iphonebsod-150x150.jpg" class="attachment-thumbnail" alt="Funny BSoD that was powering an iPhone display booth at a security conference I attended in Washington, D.C." title="iphonebsod" /></a>
<a href='http://krebsonsecurity.com/2010/03/secret-obsession-odd-windows-crash-alerts/chicagoapt/' title='chicagoapt'><img width="150" height="150" src="http://krebsonsecurity.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/chicagoapt-150x150.jpg" class="attachment-thumbnail" alt="I hate seeing this stuff at airports, like this one on the way into my American flight from Chicago recently" title="chicagoapt" /></a>
<a href='http://krebsonsecurity.com/2010/03/secret-obsession-odd-windows-crash-alerts/spainphone/' title='spainphone'><img width="150" height="150" src="http://krebsonsecurity.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/spainphone-150x150.jpg" class="attachment-thumbnail" alt="A BSoD at a payphone in the Madrid airport." title="spainphone" /></a>
<a href='http://krebsonsecurity.com/2010/03/secret-obsession-odd-windows-crash-alerts/taxiphoto/' title='taxiphoto'><img width="150" height="150" src="http://krebsonsecurity.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/taxiphoto-150x150.jpg" class="attachment-thumbnail" alt="No Fare: This Redtop cabbie was cranky, as you can see the meter isn&#039;t running because the program kept crashing." title="taxiphoto" /></a>
<a href='http://krebsonsecurity.com/2010/03/secret-obsession-odd-windows-crash-alerts/redboxerror/' title='redboxerror'><img width="150" height="150" src="http://krebsonsecurity.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/redboxerror-150x150.jpg" class="attachment-thumbnail" alt="This error kept causing the local Redbox DVD rental machine to crash. Supermarket mgr. didn&#039;t want me to take this." title="redboxerror" /></a>
<a href='http://krebsonsecurity.com/2010/03/secret-obsession-odd-windows-crash-alerts/aed3b2d/' title='aed3b2d'><img width="150" height="150" src="http://krebsonsecurity.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/aed3b2d-150x150.jpg" class="attachment-thumbnail" alt="I don&#039;t even like to think the word &quot;crash&quot; while at airports." title="aed3b2d" /></a>
<a href='http://krebsonsecurity.com/2010/03/secret-obsession-odd-windows-crash-alerts/cocabsod/' title='cocabsod'><img width="150" height="150" src="http://krebsonsecurity.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/cocabsod-150x150.jpg" class="attachment-thumbnail" alt="No Soda for You! This was supplied by a reader, who took the photo at a mall in Edison, NJ" title="cocabsod" /></a>
<a href='http://krebsonsecurity.com/2010/03/secret-obsession-odd-windows-crash-alerts/randallk/' title='randallk'><img width="150" height="150" src="http://krebsonsecurity.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/randallk-150x150.jpg" class="attachment-thumbnail" alt="Another airport BSoD submitted by a reader." title="randallk" /></a>
<a href='http://krebsonsecurity.com/2010/03/secret-obsession-odd-windows-crash-alerts/taxifail/' title='taxifail'><img width="150" height="150" src="http://krebsonsecurity.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/taxifail-150x150.jpg" class="attachment-thumbnail" alt="Reader-submitted fatal error image from a taxi in New York City" title="taxifail" /></a>
<a href='http://krebsonsecurity.com/2010/03/secret-obsession-odd-windows-crash-alerts/gaspumpbsod/' title='gaspumpbsod'><img width="150" height="150" src="http://krebsonsecurity.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/gaspumpbsod-150x150.jpg" class="attachment-thumbnail" alt="Reader-submitted embedded OS fail at a N. Va. gas pump" title="gaspumpbsod" /></a>
<a href='http://krebsonsecurity.com/2010/03/secret-obsession-odd-windows-crash-alerts/img_0138/' title='IMG_0138'><img width="150" height="150" src="http://krebsonsecurity.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/IMG_0138-150x150.jpg" class="attachment-thumbnail" alt="Reader submitted BSoD at St. Pancras International railway station in London, UK." title="IMG_0138" /></a>

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<p>I don&#8217;t know why I find these so fascinating, but it seems I&#8217;m not alone, as there are quite a few repositories for these types of pictures. For some reason (probably because the displays overheat from being always-on), airports are <a href="http://www.google.com/images?as_q=BSOD+airport&amp;hl=en&amp;btnG=Google+Search&amp;as_epq=&amp;as_oq=&amp;as_eq=&amp;imgtype=&amp;imgsz=&amp;imgw=&amp;imgh=&amp;imgar=&amp;as_filetype=&amp;imgc=&amp;as_sitesearch=&amp;as_rights=&amp;safe=images&amp;as_st=y" target="_blank">a very common place to see BSoDs</a>.</p>
<p>There several Web sites dedicated to Windows BSoDs and error messages in bizarre places. Check out <strong>Miguel Carrasco</strong>&#8216;s <a href="http://www.miguelcarrasco.net/miguelcarrasco/2006/10/blue_screen_of_.html" target="_blank">Top 10 BSoDs</a>. <strong>Flickr</strong> has an <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/bsod/" target="_blank">impressive collection</a> of error pics tagged &#8220;BSoD&#8221;. One of the largest examples of a very public BSoD came during the opening ceremonies at the 2008 Summer Olympics in China, when one of the massive LCD screens overhead <a href="http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&amp;as_st=y&amp;tbs=isch:1&amp;sa=1&amp;q=BSOD+olympics&amp;aq=f&amp;aqi=&amp;aql=&amp;oq=&amp;start=0" target="_blank">suddenly went blue</a>.</p>
<p>Surely, some of you readers have snapped your own photos of BSoDs or error messages in unexpected places. If so, shoot them to me at krebsonsecurity at gmail dot com, and I may include them in this post. <em>Please don&#8217;t send photos you don&#8217;t want posted, and most especially only send me pics that are original and that you have the rights to publish.</em></p>

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		<title>New Patches Cause BSoD for Some Windows XP Users</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 05:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>BrianKrebs</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you use Windows XP and haven't yet updated your system with the ten or so security updates that Microsoft issued Tuesday, you might to hold off for a bit. Turns out, a non-trivial number of XP users are reporting that their systems suffer from the dreaded Blue Screen of Death (BSoD) and fall into a reboot loop after installing the latest batch of patches from Redmond.]]></description>
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<p>If you use <strong>Windows XP</strong> and haven&#8217;t yet updated your system with the applicable <a href="http://www.krebsonsecurity.com/2010/02/13-ways-to-protect-your-windows-pc/" target="_blank">security updates that Microsoft issued Tuesday</a>, you might want to hold off for a bit. Turns out, a non-trivial number of XP users are reporting that their systems suffer from the dreaded <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Screen_of_Death" target="_blank">Blue Screen of Death</a> (BSoD) and fall into an interminable reboot loop after installing the latest batch of patches from Redmond.</p>
<p>The problem seems to be affecting only some XP systems. <a href="http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vistawu/thread/73cea559-ebbd-4274-96bc-e292b69f2fd1" target="_blank">This thread</a> on a Microsoft.com answers forum seems to include a fix that works. However, the fix requires users to have their XP install CD handy (in a practice that should be outlawed, many computer makers get away with shipping systems without an install/reinstall disc)</p>
<p>According to the support forum threads I&#8217;ve seen on this, affected users noticed the problem on the reboot following the installation of Tuesday&#8217;s patch batch. The folks who complained of the bootup problem said the BSOD error page is accompanied by the message &#8220;<strong>PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA&#8221;. </strong></p>
<p>If you&#8217;re experiencing the above-described problems after installing Tuesday&#8217;s bundle of updates, follow these steps, which a number of affected users have said seem to fix the problem:</p>
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<p>1. Boot from your Windows XP CD or DVD and start the recovery console (see <a href="http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/307654" target="_blank">this  link</a> on how to use recovery console)</p>
<p>Once you are in the Repair Screen..</p>
<p>2. Type this command: CHDIR $NtUninstallKB977165$\spuninst</p>
<p>3. Type this command: BATCH spuninst.txt</p>
<p>4. Type this command: systemroot</p>
<p>5. When complete, type this command: exit</p>
<p>Unfortunately, there is an entire subset of users who might be in for a whole mess more work to fix this kind of problem: Netbook users. One of the things that makes netbooks so light and small is that they do not have optical (CD/DVD-ROM) drives. If you&#8217;re a netbook user who has this problem AND a copy of a Windows XP install CD handy and a computer with a CD drive, you may still be able to rescue your system by <a href="http://www.vandomburg.net/installing-windows-xp-from-usb/" target="_blank">building a custom XP install/bootup disc on a USB drive</a>.</p>
<p>If all of that sounds like too much work, home users are eligible for no-charge support by calling 1-866-PCSAFETY (and/or 1-866-234-6020 and/or 1-800-936-5700) in the United States and in Canada. Microsoft says there is no-charge for support calls that are associated with security updates.</p>
<p><strong>Update, 8:34 a.m. ET:</strong> Based on a review of various help forums discussing this problem, it appears that the problematic update is <a href="http://support.microsoft.com/kb/977165" target="_blank">KB977165</a> (<strong>MS010&#8211;15</strong>:Vulnerabilities in Windows kernel could allow elevation of privilege&#8221;). Note that systems experiencing a BSoD may do so or hang in Safe Mode when loading the system driver &#8220;mups.sys&#8221;.</p>
<p>The help instructions above have been modified to specify the removal of just this one patch. A previous version of this blog post included instructions for removing all of the patches Microsoft shipped for XP systems on Tuesday.</p>
<p><strong>Update, Feb. 12, 10:09 a.m. ET:</strong> Microsoft has <a href="http://blogs.technet.com/msrc/archive/2010/02/11/restart-issues-after-installing-ms10-015.aspx" target="_blank">a blog post</a> up acknowledging this problem, saying that it stopped shipping the problematic update via Windows Update as soon as it recognized the issue. Redmond says it is still investigating the cause of the conflict. Microsoft notes that in lieu of applying the patch, XP users can use Microsoft&#8217;s click+install &#8220;Fix it&#8221; tool, which disables the vulnerable Windows component. That workaround is available <a href="http://support.microsoft.com/kb/979682" target="_blank">here</a>.</p>

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