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Oct 20

The Now-Defunct Firms Behind 8chan, QAnon

Some of the world’s largest Internet firms have taken steps to crack down on disinformation spread by QAnon conspiracy theorists and the hate-filled anonymous message board 8chan. But according to a California-based security researcher, those seeking to de-platform these communities may have overlooked a simple legal solution to that end: Both the Nevada-based web hosting company owned by 8chan’s current figurehead and the California firm that provides its sole connection to the Internet are defunct businesses in the eyes of their respective state regulators.

In practical terms, what this means is that the legal contracts which granted these companies temporary control over large swaths of Internet address space are now null and void, and American Internet regulators would be well within their rights to cancel those contracts and reclaim the space.

The IP address ranges in the upper-left portion of this map of QAnon and 8kun-related sites — some 21,000 IP addresses beginning in “206.” and “207.” — are assigned to N.T. Technology Inc. Image source: twitter.com/Redrum_of_Crows

That idea was floated by Ron Guilmette, a longtime anti-spam crusader who recently turned his attention to disrupting the online presence of QAnon and 8chan (recently renamed “8kun”).

On Sunday, 8chan and a host of other sites related to QAnon conspiracy theories were briefly knocked offline after Guilmette called 8chan’s anti-DDoS provider and convinced them to stop protecting the site from crippling online attacks (8Chan is now protected by an anti-DDoS provider in St. Petersburg, Russia).

The public face of 8chan is Jim Watkins, a pig farmer in the Philippines who many experts believe is also the person behind the shadowy persona of “Q” at the center of the conspiracy theory movement.

Watkin owns and operates a Reno, Nev.-based hosting firm called N.T. Technology Inc. That company has a legal contract with the American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN), the non-profit which administers IP addresses for entities based in North America.

ARIN’s contract with N.T. Technology gives the latter the right to use more than 21,500 IP addresses. But as Guilmette discovered recently, N.T. Technology is listed in Nevada Secretary of State records as under an “administrative hold,” which according to Nevada statute is a “terminated” status indicator meaning the company no longer has the right to transact business in the state.

N.T. Technology’s listing in the Nevada Secretary of State records. Click to Enlarge.

The same is true for Centauri Communications, a Freemont, Calif.-based Internet Service Provider that serves as N.T. Technology’s colocation provider and sole connection to the larger Internet. Centauri was granted more than 4,000 IPv4 addresses by ARIN more than a decade ago.

According to the California Secretary of State, Centauri’s status as a business in the state is “suspended.” It appears that Centauri hasn’t filed any business records with the state since 2009, and the state subsequently suspended the company’s license to do business in Aug. 2012. Separately, the California State Franchise Tax Board (FTB) suspended this company as of April 1, 2014.

Centauri Communications’ listing with the California Secretary of State’s office.

Neither Centauri Communications nor N.T. Technology responded to repeated requests for comment.

KrebsOnSecurity shared Guilmette’s findings with ARIN, which said it would investigate the matter.

“ARIN has received a fraud report from you and is evaluating it,” a spokesperson for ARIN said. “We do not comment on such reports publicly.”

Guilmette said apart from reclaiming the Internet address space from Centauri and NT Technology, ARIN could simply remove each company’s listings from the global WHOIS routing records. Such a move, he said, would likely result in most ISPs blocking access to those IP addresses.

“If ARIN were to remove these records from the WHOIS database, it would serve to de-legitimize the use of these IP blocks by the parties involved,” he said. “And globally, it would make it more difficult for the parties to find people willing to route packets to and from those blocks of addresses.”

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106 comments

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    • The term pandemic is well defined, and not subject to the opinions of individuals.

    • “I am of the opinion”

      Please stop developing your opinions based on the opinions of other uneducated youtubers. These chan sites have affected your conception of reality.

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  3. >Well, actually, no, it doesn’t work this way. Hertz is not that dumb. If your brother dies, then Hertz WILL get that car back. ARIN? Not so much. If you die, ARIN will let -somebody- keep what they leased to you.

    But what if rather than your brother dying, became one with you?

    The entities listed as owning those assets are no more, I’m willing to stipulate that.

    What I didn’t see stated explicitly in these articles and what I don’t think we know is if they were legally merged or acquired by another entity — in which case that surviving entity (unlike the survivors of a decedent) would have automatically by law assumed the assets, liabilities, contracts, etc.

    This may be a legitimate issue that those entities have ceased to exist without any legal successor.

    It may also just be a bookkeeping issue. Do the Secretary of State offices update business records to indicate they’ve merged? Does the surviving entity (if any) simply have to notify ARIN and provide the paperwork they are the legal successor to those contracts?

    • I’m pretty sure the ARIN registration must be renewed and the facts of the registration reasserted regularly, and thus since these corps have been dissolved through one means or another the hypothetical succeeding corporation in your hypothesis would have had to insert the correct information when it renewed. Since that did not happen, and the renewals should have flushed out your contention many years ago, I must conclude the successor corporation theory can’t hold water.

      What is not discussed is whether and to what extent could the owners of these defunct corporations revive their existence. That’s a matter of state law and each state is different. But most states have some allowable method to bring the corporation back from the dead (paying all the back taxes and registration fees and some penalties and such usually). Someone who knows Nevada and California law should pipe up. That said these dissolutions go back a long time and the right to revive is probably not good perpetually (and particularly not when the facts say the owner was perpetuating a fraud).