(5:05:18 PM) krebsjabber@jabber.se/116268485597016592671468089681656666: hi there (5:05:18 PM) leakedsource@chatme.im has not been authenticated yet. You should authenticate this buddy. [Image] (5:05:18 PM) Unverified conversation with leakedsource@chatme.im/c2d0ee38-a2ae-4d42-b4ee-79655f05e6c3 started. Your client is logging this conversation. [Image] (5:05:28 PM) The privacy status of the current conversation is now: Private (5:19:12 PM) Leakedsource@chatme.im: Hello. (7/12/2016 9:33:29 AM) krebsjabber@jabber.se/116268485597016592671468089681656666: ping (11:40:15 AM) Leakedsource@chatme.im: Hello. (11:51:16 AM) krebsjabber@jabber.se/116268485597016592671468089681656666: hehro (11:51:31 AM) krebsjabber@jabber.se/116268485597016592671468089681656666: in case it wasn't already clear, this is Krebs (11:54:09 AM) Leakedsource@chatme.im: Hello. (11:55:56 AM) krebsjabber@jabber.se/116268485597016592671468089681656666: wanted to ask you about your service (11:56:11 AM) krebsjabber@jabber.se/116268485597016592671468089681656666: how many paying customers do you currently have? (11:56:26 AM) krebsjabber@jabber.se/116268485597016592671468089681656666: and do more people pay to look stuff up or to remove their stuff from leakedsource? (11:57:51 AM) Leakedsource@chatme.im: We're a private company so for the moment we keep our financial details to ourselves. Removal is 100% free from LeakedSource, there is no revenue stream from that feature. (12:47:47 PM) krebsjabber@jabber.se/116268485597016592671468089681656666: but you would have to have paid in order to see whether your records are in the database (12:47:52 PM) krebsjabber@jabber.se/116268485597016592671468089681656666: so not exactly free (12:48:25 PM) Leakedsource@chatme.im: You can see whether you are in the database 100% free. (12:48:35 PM) Leakedsource@chatme.im: It is to see physical data you must pay. (12:49:16 PM) krebsjabber@jabber.se/116268485597016592671468089681656666: not when i tried. it said there was data when i looked up an email, but to see what data was there I had to sign up for a membership or a one-time fee (12:51:57 PM) Leakedsource@chatme.im: Yes, just stated that. (12:52:18 PM) Leakedsource@chatme.im: To check whether you are in the database is 100% free. To see the physical data you must pay. (12:53:23 PM) krebsjabber@jabber.se/116268485597016592671468089681656666: right. ergo, in order to remove your data, you have to pay to see if it's there first (12:53:32 PM) krebsjabber@jabber.se/116268485597016592671468089681656666: so it's not correct to call it free to remove your data (12:53:40 PM) krebsjabber@jabber.se/116268485597016592671468089681656666: anyway (12:53:55 PM) krebsjabber@jabber.se/116268485597016592671468089681656666: I'm curious if you know that your service is a walking felony in the United States? (12:54:13 PM) krebsjabber@jabber.se/116268485597016592671468089681656666: I've spoken with two former prosecutors and even to the EFF (12:55:06 PM) krebsjabber@jabber.se/116268485597016592671468089681656666: The CFAA, flawed as it may be as a law, punishs the trafficking of password information (1030A6) (1:02:58 PM) Leakedsource@chatme.im: Our removal process is 100% free. Once you use our free search process to see if any data exists you can remove those records without a purchase and even without signing up. https://www.leakedsource.com/main/removal (1:03:18 PM) Leakedsource@chatme.im: As for legal matters, we always defer all legal questions to our legal council. (2:15:08 PM) krebsjabber@jabber.se/116268485597016592671468089681656666: you have a whole legal council? or did you mean counsel? Who is that? (2:20:04 PM) Leakedsource@chatme.im: Counsel* excuse the typo. (2:20:21 PM) krebsjabber@jabber.se/116268485597016592671468089681656666: np. who's the lawyer? (2:20:30 PM) krebsjabber@jabber.se/116268485597016592671468089681656666: i'd like to reach out to him or her or it (2:21:22 PM) krebsjabber@jabber.se/116268485597016592671468089681656666: how do i reach them? (2:23:45 PM) Leakedsource@chatme.im: You can submit legal documents via our contact form. (2:29:12 PM) krebsjabber@jabber.se/116268485597016592671468089681656666: legal documents? no, I wanted to get an answer to my question (2:29:23 PM) krebsjabber@jabber.se/116268485597016592671468089681656666: you said you refer those inquiries to your counsel (2:29:49 PM) krebsjabber@jabber.se/116268485597016592671468089681656666: how can i get a response from them? (2:43:37 PM) Leakedsource@chatme.im: All the same, anything legal related should be sent to our contact form. If a response is required we will be in touch after consulting our counsel. (2:55:45 PM) krebsjabber@jabber.se/116268485597016592671468089681656666: where is your contact form? (2:55:52 PM) krebsjabber@jabber.se/116268485597016592671468089681656666: and why can't you just relay my question? (2:58:41 PM) Leakedsource@chatme.im: https://www.leakedsource.com/main/contact/ (2:58:48 PM) Leakedsource@chatme.im: We will relay your question. (7/13/2016 2:50:04 PM) krebsjabber@jabber.se/90465957774569735651468406547160109: so did you get an answer? (7/14/2016 12:55:52 PM) krebsjabber@jabber.se/90465957774569735651468406547160109: bump? (1:01:04 PM) krebsjabber@jabber.se/90465957774569735651468406547160109: also, several people have told me that leakedsource rose out of abusewith.us, is that true? (1:15:44 PM) Leakedsource@chatme.im: We started around October or November of 2015. After many of the big breaches of 2015, we noticed a common public trend... "Where can I search it to see if I was affected?" And thus, the idea was born to fill that need, not rising out of anything. We are however going to terminate the interview as it does seem to be more of a witch hunt instead of journalism. Thank you for your time. (1:18:14 PM) krebsjabber@jabber.se/90465957774569735651468406547160109: lol. a witch hunt? I can't help it if your entire service is based on something that's illegal where most of its users are (1:18:21 PM) krebsjabber@jabber.se/90465957774569735651468406547160109: kinda hard to dance around that point (1:18:28 PM) krebsjabber@jabber.se/90465957774569735651468406547160109: you can ignore it if you like. (1:19:17 PM) krebsjabber@jabber.se/90465957774569735651468406547160109: pretty lame that you guys wouldn't answer the one question I really wanted to hear an answer to (1:31:09 PM) Leakedsource@chatme.im: We are okay with being lame. (1:33:52 PM) krebsjabber@jabber.se/90465957774569735651468406547160109: oh do you guys still take paypal at 188.209.52.189?