The founder of Liberty Reserve, a digital currency that has evolved as perhaps the most popular form of payment in the cybercrime underground, was reportedly arrested in Spain this week on suspicion of money laundering. News of the law enforcement action may help explain an ongoing three-day outage at libertyreserve.com: On Friday, the domain registration records for that site and for several other digital currency exchanges began pointing to Shadowserver.org, a volunteer organization dedicated to combating global computer crime.
According to separate reports in The Tico Times and La Nacion, two Costa Rican daily newspapers, police in Spain arrested Arthur Budovsky Belanchuk, 39, as part of a money laundering investigation jointly run by authorities in New York and Costa Rica.
Update, May 28, 9:11 a.m. ET: Libertyreserve.com is now resolving again, but its homepage has been replaced by a notice saying “THIS DOMAIN NAME HAS BEEN SEIZED,” and features badges from the U.S. Treasury Dept., U.S. Secret Service, and the DHS.
Original story:
The papers cited Costa Rican prosecutor José Pablo González saying that Budovsky, a Costa Rican citizen of Ukrainian origin, has been under investigation since 2011 for money laundering using Liberty Reserve, a company he created in Costa Rica. “Local investigations began after a request from a prosecutor’s office in New York,” Tico Times reporter L. Arias wrote. “On Friday, San José prosecutors conducted raids in Budovsky’s house and offices in Escazá, Santa Ana, southwest of San José, and in the province of Heredia, north of the capital. Budovsky’s businesses in Costa Rica apparently were financed by using money from child pornography websites and drug trafficking.”
For those Spanish-speaking readers out there, Gonzalez can be seen announcing the raids in a news conference documented in this youtube.com video (the subtitles option for English do a decent job of translation as well).
Liberty Reserve is a largely unregulated money transfer business that allows customers to open accounts using little more than a valid email address, and this relative anonymity has attracted a huge number of customers from underground economies, particularly cybercrime.
In a now 10-page thread on this crime forum, many members are facing steep losses.
The trouble started on Thursday, when libertyreserve.com inexplicably went offline. The outage set off increasingly anxious discussions on several major cybercrime forums online, as many that work and ply their trade in malicious software and banking fraud found themselves unable to access their funds. For example, a bulletproof hosting provider on Darkode.com known as “off-sho.re” (a hacker profiled in this blog last week) said he stood to lose $25,000, and that the Liberty Reserve shutdown “could be the most massive ownage in the history of e-currency.”
That concern turned to dread for some after it became apparent that this was no ordinary outage. On Friday, the domain name servers for Libertyreserve.com were changed and pointed to ns1.sinkhole.shadowserver.org and ns2.sinkhole.shadowserver.org. Shadowserver is an all-volunteer nonprofit organization that works to help Internet service providers and hosting firms eradicate malware infections and botnets located on their servers.
In computer security lexicon, a sinkhole is basically a way of redirecting malicious Internet traffic so that it can be captured and analyzed by experts and/or law enforcement officials. In its 2011 takedown of the Coreflood botnet, for example, the U.S. Justice Department relied on sinkholes maintained by the nonprofit Internet Systems Consortium (ISC). Sinkholes are most often used to seize control of botnets, by interrupting the DNS names the botnet is programmed to use. Ironically, as of this writing Shadowserver.org is not resolving, possibly because the Web site is under a botnet attack (hackers from at least one forum threatened to attack Shadowserver.org in retaliation for losing access to their funds).
Reached via Twitter, a representative from Shadowserver declined to comment on the outage or about Liberty Reserve, saying “We are not able to provide public comment at this time.” I could find no official statement from the U.S. Justice Department on this matter either.
Libertyreserve.com is not the only virtual currency exchange that has been redirected to Shadowserver’s DNS servers. According to passive DNS data collected by the ISC, at least five digital currency exchanges —milenia-finance
Assuming the reports at The Tico Times and El Nacion are accurate, this would not be the first time Mr. Budovsky has attracted attention from authorities for money laundering. According to the Justice Department, on July 27, 2006, Arthur Budovsky and a man named Vladimir Kats were indicted by the state of New York on charges of operating an illegal money transmittal business, GoldAge Inc., from their Brooklyn apartments. From a Justice Department account of that case:
“The defendants had transmitted at least $30 million to digital currency accounts worldwide since beginning operations in 2002. The digital currency exchanger, GoldAge, received and transmitted $4 million between January 1, 2006, and June 30, 2006, as part of the money laundering scheme. Customers opened online GoldAge accounts with limited documentation of identity, then GoldAge purchased digital gold currency through those accounts; the defendants’ fees sometimes exceeded $100,000. Customers could choose their method of payment to GoldAge: wire remittances, cash deposits, postal money orders, or checks. Finally, the customers could withdraw the money by requesting wire transfers to accounts anywhere in the world or by having checks sent to any identified individual.”
From the U.S. government’s description, Liberty Reserve sounds virtually indistinguishable from GoldAge, except for having been based in Costa Rica. If Liberty Reseve stays offline, this could cause a major upheaval in the cybercrime economy. I will be following this case closely, and would expect to hear more about this apparently coordinated takedown following the Memorial Day holiday in the U.S. on Monday.
For now, however, many in the underground would rather believe almost any other explanation than a law enforcement takedown. The administrator of cybercrime forum Carder.pro, for example, has been telling forum members that the entire incident is the work of professional hackers working for Liberty Reserve’s competitors.
Carder.pro administrator “Ninja” isn’t buying the news being reported by Costa Rican media.
Update, May 26, 10:45 p.m. ET: A competitor to Liberty Reserve, a virtual currency called Perfect Money, on Saturday posted a note to its site saying it would no longer accept new registrations from individuals or companies based in the United States. “We bring to your attention that due to changes in our policy we forbid new registrations from individuals or companies based in the United States of America. This includes US citizens residing overseas,” the company wrote. “If you fall under the above mentioned category or a US resident, please do not register an account with us. We apologize for any inconvenience caused.”
Update, May 28, 1:26 p.m., ET: I just filed a follow-up story which confirms that libertyreseve.com and other exchangers were seized by the U.S. government. The story also examines the impact of this law enforcement action on other digital currencies, including Bitcoin.
i will not be moved by all this baldadash…..my money can never be lost….the site will be restored in a matter of hours. tighten your sit belts if you have money in your LR account.
So a lot of people seem to think it is about the money, or even about Belanchuk, but I’ve seen nobody mention just how immensely valuable the US government would consider the information and datas that are in the LR databases, which they would almost certainly get access to as part of the criminal prosecution process.
Whether they succeed in convicting Belanchuk or not, they will almost certainly have the means to make a whole lot of other cases. Often these cases derive from OTHER cases, anyway.
Here is what I think: They still want the people behind the people that did the New York cashout operation. They probably want other people, including MLM people that are evading taxes. They probably have other very specific cases in New York that they require evidence to. Because it is out of their reach, the best way to get the evidence they want is to put it within their reach.
I think the timing is important.
Voksalna,
Thanks as always for your perspective. A source of mine, a great guy, is impressed with your writing and would really like to speak with you. Send me an email for you via the contact form on the site and give me permission to forward it to him?
Tx
Bk
Liberty had 140 millions dollars daily turnover .
liberty reserve kabhi to khulay ga pakistani bhiou
hello
plz tel me that when will liberty reserve be reopen.
Never
irfan i have 500 usd in liberty reserve how can i get back
Allah kaare k khul jae……nai to phaki ae gi karari kisam ki
LR was really good way to pay and get paid.
Hope it will up soon…..my hundreds of $ locked in it 🙁
I shall prayer for your hundereds of $
Well contact me personal tel me how much is your money am going to give it back to you okay
thank you Mr.Devendra
“There is no more delicious irony than watching cybercockroaches foam at the mouths because their illegally gained money was ‘stolen’ from them.”
FROM ONE OF THE FORUM:
“Libertyreserve have left me with this one and only option. If their site does not comes online within a week i will do suicide on a live cam. Libertyreserve officials and US govt will be responsible for my death.
I am broken and they took my money. I don’t have a penny now and my whole family runs on my income.
I am serious about it, please don’t make fun.”
REALLY FUNNY AND AMUSING
This guy is from SEA …
Ye he should move to some decent country … with decent laws … not stay in Saigon,Vietnam …
.. yea .. he cant .. need VISA ! Bad luck !
So fair system !
Someone said Paypal as decent alternative !
dont get me started with their DOUBLE standards !
While Paypal provide full protection and fair game inside the US borders .. outside US is totally different (Bully) scheme !
Except some EU countries like UK,Germany etc …
Paypal must play by the rules only in the US and some other west EU countries … in all other world .. it is much cheaper for them … to break the law and be punished (take the consequences… wich are non existant… since there is no strong …consument protection .. all in favor to big companies)
For example .. Bruxell Paypal is for all eastern europe … and Singaporean is for all south east asia !
WHY ?
that is their protection against lawsuits !
They had their cost benefit nalysises .. and figured that sometimes is cheaper to break the law and pay for it tahen the follow it !
La familligia …
Corleones are little kiddies for them !
And Paypal with ebay is considered reputable and considerable “rollmodel” company !
Give me a brak !
Journalists DO THE JOB !
Investigate !
I agree. Journalists should investigate. I thought journalism was supposed to be about putting aside partiality and reporting facts.
Paypal is very good at freezing balances for no reason required, prohibiting withdrawal of funds, repeatedly requesting documentation then refusing to release funds anyway, saying one thing and doing another, one day permitting something and the next day prohibiting you from using it for the same things they permitted (and gave no notice to changing) mere hours ago.
If you are in the US you are probably OK. If you are not in or from the US (actually I’d even say in AND from the US from what I have seen on forums and elsewhere) you are likely to at some point get screwed over and not even be told why, with let’s say a 10% chance every few months. This is not good odds. That is if they even let you use their services to begin with.
There is a reason so many people sell “virtual bank accounts” and “virtual cards” with address verification online. One reason is that people tend to buy them to do anything on Paypal. Then of course later they often run into problems because they used them to begin with, it is against terms of service, blah blah, but most people only do it in the first place because it is almost impossible to do a lot of perfectly legal things without that access.
Most people who can access these services just say ‘well then you should not be using them to begin with’, of course.
Also I’d like to point out that while people are really happy to announce how everyone is a criminal, your very own system, if you are American, makes you prosecutable on a daily basis — they just have to care enough to bother:
http://ulrichboser.com/how-many-felonies-did-you-commit-today-an-interview-with-harvey-silverglate/
“Paypal is very good at freezing balances for no reason required, prohibiting withdrawal of funds … If you are in the US you are probably OK”
PayPal did this to me and I live in the USA. I tried to purchase something from a major company for $400. An hour later, the company emailed me and announced that the part was no longer available. The company refunded my money immediately. But PayPal put a hold on the funds for a week.
Therefore, contrary to your assertion, PayPal does not treat Americans better than foreigners.
Not exactly the same although I understand the situation. Here, you got your funds back in a week. If you are not in the US then you would probably have to wait months for the system to revert the funds back. Or you might get your account ‘temporarily held’ while they looked at it; that could go on indefinitely, because the checks and balances are different where you are as opposed to outside of the US.
Actually, did you pay with their credit card system, or did you pay from a Paypal balance? This would also make a large difference since if it was via credit card you are not precisely dealing with Paypal, you are dealing with the card provider, in which case a week is actually not too long at all (though not as fast as it could be). Part of why they hold on to card-processed money is because of the ability of chargebacks — which (ironically?) is one thing that people value(d) LR for — you may risk losing the value you sent if the vendor was not reliable and never see your money again, but that is why a trust-based economy is valuable.
As I’ve stated before, while money while in LR is/was, yes, more or less anonymous, one typically has to provide identification to withdraw any sizeable sum. LR was anonymous for bartering, mostly. It was often not anonymous for actually “touching” cash unless you are talking about smaller sums of money — and then you are talking about the exchangers.
Because I suspect you will mention that people will often show false documents (I cut out my original portion of the reply having to do with this for brevity — I am posting here too much, I think), yes, they will, but then that is a crime. If I handed you 80 UAH, or about $10 USD, then that is between us. If I handed you 8000 UAH, or about $1000 USD, that would also be between us. The same would go in the opposite direction. (I am here ignoring the fact that removing any sizeable amount of Ukraine currency is technically prohibited; for that matter, sending credit cards through the mails is technically prohibited in Ukraine.).
It is cash. We do not have to tell our respective governments, or anyone else, that hello we have had cash exchange hands. Cash is the ultimate anonymous currency.
Now, if you want to go into a bank and open a banking account and place that cash into a banking account, then you will almost certainly be asked for identification. Whether or not you do this legally or not becomes the issue. The issue is not that you have cash. Nobody would say you cannot keep that same cash under a floorboard or in a safe somewhere (overkill for $1000 USD!). Nobody would say you cannot give that cash to somebody else, and nobody would say you have to keep a log of every time you exchanged cash with other people.
Since I do not want to get into political arguments about the actual value of cash, precious metal backing (or lack thereof, etc), at its core, cash is a type of scrip. It technically is just paper. We let it have ‘value’ because it provides us with an easy way to barter or trade that paper for goods between multiple people, pay back loans, provide salary to our employees, or buy an education (another piece of paper with dubious value since one can be highly educated and have never received a degree, but a piece of paper we state has worth because it makes life in the modern world easier; it is a shortcut, the same way cash is a shortcut).
LR was just another shortcut. Ecurrency where the intermediary is technically not giving the cash to you is a shortcut. It is a little bit like if I visited your relative in some faraway country and gave to him this $1000 in the local currency, and then he told his friend where you are to pay you the equivalent in your local currency (also nicely not having to deal with exchange rates and being fee’ed a few percentage points on top of the exchange). Eastern cultures especially do this because it makes life less complicated. The US has issues with this also, of course.
There are a lot of ways to have anonymity. Getting rid of LR will not really affect that, because LR is a closer analogue to cash than a prepaid debit card is. It has no value unless LR itself says it does, you say it does, and the exchangers on both sides say it does. And since there are fairly well-defined rules about what amounts are “ok” and “not ok” to transact in many places, and you would be dealing with that with the exchangers and your bank(s), not LR, LR is just scrip and should not need to be tracked any more than cash does.
Of course a lot of people want to do away with the cash economy but in a lot of countries the majority of transactions are cash, the country’s economy is cash, and anything other than cash is not very helpful.
Claims about anonymity, for this reason, make me cringe.
“Libertyreserve have left me with this one and only option. If their site does not comes online within a week i will do suicide on a live cam. Libertyreserve officials and US govt will be responsible for my death.
I am broken and they took my money. I don’t have a penny now and my whole family runs on my income.
I am serious about it, please don’t make fun.”
That guy made that post on a gambling/spamming/ponzi scheme forum. Whatever activity he was involved in, it was preying on innocent people and scamming them. Are we supposed to feel pity for the scammer because he can’t scam anymore?
boohoo, dont kill yourself man, so you can get back to scamming again?
None of the “victims” in this comment thread have any credibility to me.
It might just be you who lacks credibility. The people who choose to participate on a gambling site using the currency system available to them are exercising their freedom to do so, so there are no victims from their activity. What is your problem with other people’s freedom, if it doesn’t impact you?
The suicide-contemplating person has been victimized by outside control freaking busybodies like YOU, who deign to cheer on the removal of their freedom, the trashing of their currency, and the criminal defaming of their activity, to the point where he is in despair.
maybe i would stop cheering on the trashing of LR if it wasn’t the #1 choice of every criminal ever. the forum is a forum for spam and scams and yes spam affects me, so I say down with anyone that propagates it.
The sense of entitlement I’m getting from all these butthurt criminals posting comments here is palpable. They worked so hard to steal other people’s money, so they deserve it dammit! hah, rot in jail you shits
Here is another way to look at your spam problem: If you are getting a lot of spam then you are probably having to clear out your mailbox a lot. If your mail service is not strictly of the POP3/IMAP4 variety, that is if it is webmail, you will almost certainly be getting views for each click click you do to delete things (one by one or all at once, no doubt paging through many pages if your email provider is particularly bad about managing spam or you are just particularly good at using the same email address everywhere).
Spam costs the email companies a little bit of money to filter, but it makes a lot more money on the ad revenues due to the extra page loads.
It is funny you do not consider these ads that probably show up all over the websites you view as spam. Let us say that you are blocking all ads — then you are costing people like Brian money and time which is kind of like what you are complaining about with your spam, but in the opposite direction.
I am not making an argument for ‘spam’ being good, I am saying that the ecosystem is far more complicated than most people know or want to believe.
It’s not just spam. that forum also has high-yield-investment programs which is just another word for ponzi scheme. Suckers who don’t know better are losing their money and the worse thing here is that the scammers in these comments have apparently deluded themselves into thinking they’re actually making an honest living. Time to face harsh reality kids.
good news buddy we have to remove cyber crimes dont think about yourself thing about other
“good news buddy we have to remove cyber crimes dont think about yourself thing about other”
Yea … for little karies .. you will take out all teeths .. and advise to eat vegies from now !
Not even bother with tumor iside !
It will be operation sucesfull, patient dead !
You just wont proboly bother coz that aint your problem… you just wanted stinky breath problem to solved at any cost !
Call me insane .. but I do not think that if someone pickpocket me on the public transportation … at present time .. a dime should be spent for improved security at that subject !
Cyber crime you say ? how big is it ?
Bigger than white collar crime ? Wall street & Company ?
Who pushed the whol world over the edge … and probobly in next decade or so we will be hurling toward some large global conflict !
Dont be silly !
to voksalna
Do you think New York cashout scheme is worthed to be solved ?
They need evidences ?
What evidences .. money is long time gone … how many millions !!??
Collateral damage is rest of the world so some of the lawenforcments in NY should make their statistic little better this year !
WTF …
Money is gone ! Damage done … How many people will be imprisoned .. bottom line ? 10-20 … or 50 ?
How many broken famillies will be on far east because this … who cares ….
NYPD or FBI statistic is what counts !
And their to justify their existance .. bty any means necessary …
I think this game is never meant to be won .. only to kept playin .. same as terrorism …
Taxpayers will pay then indefinite … they will have thir jobs … will produce FAKE security … while real engineers/producers .. will be jobless ..
american “legal” system is bullying the rest of the world again .. because they can …
Like one lawenforcment guy said to me once (at least he was honest)
“I like there is so much crime, I will have job for longer time”
INSANE !!!!!!!!!!!
Heizenberg,
> Do you think New York cashout scheme is worthed to be solved ?
> They need evidences ?
> What evidences .. money is long time gone … how many millions !!??
No. I am agreeing with you. But what I consider rational has nothing to do with their rationale. They care about their careers and amount of money they can fine, but that probably has almost nothing to do with how much money they would actually collect. What it would almost certainly do is get more people informing on more people. It isn’t the cashers they are interested in, nearly as much as it is the people who ran the operation, and the people who hacked into the processors. They want information so that they can scare people into snitching on their friends. Perhaps it is my culture, or perhaps it is my sense of morality, but I consider snitching to be vile.
> NYPD or FBI statistic is what counts !
> And their to justify their existance .. bty any means necessary …
> I think this game is never meant to be won .. only to kept playin .. same as terrorism …
> Taxpayers will pay then indefinite … they will have thir jobs … will produce FAKE security …
> while real engineers/producers .. will be jobless ..
They want to make their careers, get notoriety… Heh they are little different than people in ‘the scene’. They want reputation and advancement. Most do not care about the costs, and few care about what’s “right” or “wrong” (or they think they do but along the way have totally deluded themselves into what that actually means).
> american “legal” system is bullying the rest of the world again .. because they can …
> Like one lawenforcment guy said to me once (at least he was honest)
> “I like there is so much crime, I will have job for longer time”
Like AV industry, the “criminal justice system” is reliant upon the very things they are supposedly “against” to stay employed. And nothing good can ever come out of this. It’s also why, for instance, US pharmacy is so intent on keeping people on pills instead of curing ailments (through diet or even other pills that actually fix problems instead of push down symptoms): fixing the problem doesn’t pay. And if you don’t get paid, you don’t get a job. And if you don’t have a job, then you lack status. And if you lack status you’re just as bad as “them” (or “us”) because that is how people see people they consider adversaries. And they will do anything to avoid being what they have convinced themselves is the devil.
To Heizenberg
it was so strange with this incidents , no bigger media report this, Where are they????
Don’t they access internet? Helloooo… U.S Journalist where are you???
Embarrassing work they do, they keep mouth quiet when happened more than 48 hours, they do not think what the impact, people ready gonna suffer maybe it has if it continuing with uncertainly.
For us this incident is big disaster , but for them just think it as to be material fun.
About Paypal what to be their main payment is ridiculous think to me , they need credit card as main requirement , in my place you have to be worker class and minimum 315.5$ for income in a month as needed in order you have credit card.
Many people vcc as they sold and using LR in some seller as payment, and again they judge and blame this to be illegal activity, what is the logic???
especially dear Mr Brian, still in your point of view thinking is doing many illegal activity????
wake up…wake up Mister, using your head thinking simple thing.
In fact now again i repeat it libertyreserve can not access, no notice, no report news. and your side keep quite, what the hell happened?????, hellooo this is in May no April.
Do you remember when Wikileaks was denied Paypal, and Credit Card Payment donations and right after that anonyimous attacked and ddosed some of that systems !
Medias were reporting widely !
Big corporation lose million or two or whatever …. you will know it .. it will be disaster … act of terrorism !
US journalists do not bite hand who is feeding them .. remember that !
Well you cant blaim them … (have logic)
But problem is when they want to be only and relevat source of info and gets offended whrn you do not takes them seriuosly or respectfuly !
Nowdays it is all reading between the lines !
Trust no one … question evrything !
Just befroe 10 years ago .. Orwel “1984” seemd so funny and amusing novell … You thought that in that magnitute will never occur .. it is just immagination …
But today … aint fun at all !
Heizenberg,
I would like to get in touch with you personally because I think you have some interesting points and I do not want to jumble up this blog more, but I do not want to ask you to go through Brian to do so. Is there a way to get in touch?
the blog is up again , maybe this is agood news
the blog is up again , maybe this is a good news
click on my name it will open or use its link
What about Solidtrustpay, perfrctmoney and others… they all only require basic information just like LR! In my honest opinion the reason assigned to this attack on liberty reserve is not justifiable- that only few info is required for registration;
Who said all dealers in e-currencies are fraudulent.. what a shame!
Now I wonder when d court precedings will start and end, and when our moneys will be withdrawable; so sad!
United State of America, Please don’t create more enemy for your self, an hungry man is an angry man, liberty reserve has become part of almost everybody daily easy way to transact their business including banks and many business owners both privilege and underprivileged I can say if shut down this will affect almost every house hold including myself to loose their money and the after effect myth be bad for all
Heizenberg you are stupid and dumb, not all peoples are cyber criminal criminal and alot peoples were using LR for investment. Now after this LR shutdown they are broke, it’s easy to laugh on others situation or loosing them money but when same thing happen with you, you will cry. So fuck you, give some respect to peoples.
Said with sarcasm throughout: Oh, don’t worry, the US government will come for the investors also. There’s something for everyone, here. For you they will send the tax man. We’re all criminals to them. Clearly if we are using LR we have something to “hide”, and therefore we must be criminals. Right? After all they don’t need it and they are good upstanding citizens!
pls tell me when liberty reserve reopen
I hate American country and I hope this country will be erase on the map world.
Don’t mistake, American people are just people like of us, but the us government deserve to die.
FUCK THE UNITED STATES
A number of cyber-criminals may have used LR for payment, but it was actually a useful alternative to Paypal. I knew a few people in Egypt who only used LR because Paypal refused to support their country. A lot of legitimate sellers have also favored LR over Paypal due to the fact it’s pretty easy for scammers to pay for items and then have their money returned to them by claiming they didn’t receive.
Typical government action though, fuck over the majority to get back at the minority.
Paypal Paypal Paypal LoL….
Were these details in the article already confirmed by some state authority? I do not consider tabloids as The Tico Times or La Nacion to be trustworthy source of information.
Liberty Reserve Clients can Loss as much as 68 Million Dollars. US Financial Authorities sources told (GoogleFeed). Official Googlefeed article at http://googlefeed.com/digital-currency-site-liberty-reserve-shut-down-after-arrest-of-owner
WOW look at all these mad foreigners. keep hacking americans why don’t you and see wtf happens. My country is going to take this shit even further!
Do you really believe anyone is going to think that site wasn’t infested with thieves? They obviously have something on the guy who ran it.
the pc industry itself is dying on the whole…..cause there is noone left in it anymore. Unless your a hacking nerd or work in the pc industry yourself….everyone is going on androids and ipads… There is just too many virused pcs nowadays.
all blogs are a bunch of foreigners nowadays. Americans have been abandoning all the viruses and hackers on pcs for years now.
In 2013 its becoming a serious problem. Our gov’t is now finally aware of the national security risk. But We are still waiting for CEO’s of major corporations to finally wake up. Its only going to get worse for you foreigners who want to rob americans. Your not robin hood. Like most hackers you’re delusional….selfish pathological liars, that would snitch on your mom.
Paypal should ban Russia.
I will commit suicide if Liberty will not be reopen by tomorrow afternoon , i had 10 000 LR in my account it was a forex investment . I made that money Legally .Its a day light robbery .Oh well poor me , goodbye people , goodbye humanity . Brian Crebs was responsible for my death .i hope all you family will burn in hell like im now .You brought shame to are family ..
help .oxtsm@tagyourself.com
you made all that money forex investing? hahahah. shit man you must be rich already and don’t need it then.
trading currencies is something i can see a bank doing. not you in your 3rd world country…..
you sound like a money launderer.
It must be legal in his country, where an immortal living is “legal”.
jumbo sounds like yet another criminal moron who can’t even tell the difference between the FBI and a journalist writing a story about the FBI’s actions.
All these spammers, scammers, and thieves threatening to off themselves won’t be missed very badly.
I’m reading up on this forex trading. holy cow dude. you were on the road to suicide anyways. why didn’t you just trade stocks? trading currencies? seriously? You must be a pretty smart guy man. In fact you must be a fkn genius….I’m sure you can find something else you can do legally. I dont’ think thats the right business for you.
Also all these shady brokers out there for forex trading…man…. It looks like hacker central.
Forex trading is a scam. Forex is a zero sum game so if he’s on the winning side, he is on the scamming side. Shuffling money around in confidence games with suckers is not an honest living.
jumbo, you’ve got more to live for … try to imagine of the shame for your family if to end it. Think of them. What kind of example are going to leave? your legacy?
usa just want to destroy or domage russian biz
thats thire real point nothing else lr was a legal not elegal
Truth is somewhere in the middle. Coin has 2 sides.
It is always a matter of having “someone to drag to court” to at least have some security of assets. Since virtual currencies tend to block money with obscure reasons, and there is no one to realy sue, i would not store there assets. It they will be gone, they will be gone. So generally if someone is storing money @ LR i would say its high-risk deposit, albeit with some juicy pros. Also some people from far-away realy used this stuff as only possible asset transfer, so … thats sad.
Thats one side.
Someone is saying, well cybercrooks got it. Dont be so happy. I think Brian remembers old classic shadow crew bust and what happened afterwards, how the cybercrime wold changed. Crooks will not suffer in long term, instead this will make them more stronger and more stealthy and, yes, more dangerous. Crime will not go anywhere and new obstacles are just making them more agile and more out-of-the-box-thinker like. To put another way – soon it will be even harder to understand where they will hide thir stashes.
@not possible
Ever since shadow crew i think every name with the word shadow in it is suspect. This is first time i heard of a shadow name being the good guys.
i remember shadow crew very well. They had some russian pos brick my mobo. And at that time most guys got slaps on the wrist by secret service. as long as they promised not to hack anymore. Then that kid years ago got only 7 years and he actually affected the american economy haha. I think the longest sentence i know about is the TJX theft ring leader. He got 20 years i believe. still only the ring leader….. And this was only the first real national news coverage on such an event imo.
But now….we are in 2013. Where 1 out of 3 americans get credit stolen. Where we were going to send the MIT kid to 35 years in prison…..for downloading public journals….lol And where we have laws now….where American citizens can be assassinated by executive order without trial or due process!
the only reason there is more hackers now…..is because of technology. There is more plug and play hardware devices…..and ease of use software, with no regard for security.
You think shadow crew became stronger? Your a delusional nerd. I knew some of those scumbag americans. Most of them just hack their friends now or cheat in online video games. All pathological lying losers that would rat on their own mother. You get one of them you get everybody.
Also would like to talk with you privately if possible, ‘not possible’?
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Funny people here.
“LR is for money laundering” blablabla…
Dumb guy seriously, what do you think about the offshore banking ? Offshore formation with nominated director ? Seychelles, BVI and all these shit island, do you think all the money here is legitimate ? No money laundering or drug money there ? Shit you’re so dumb and believe all you can read in the media.
LR was nice payment system, easy and offer an big anonymity, if some people did use it for make bad thing (such drug…) well… That’s life, it’s not reason for close it and put the majority of people did use the system legitimately in the shit… Do investigate on the concerning people wth !
The US gov try to fuck all the thing they cannot control. That all. They think all country have to follow what they say. Sorry for the USA but, you just shit country and many other country on this world don’t care about you (and people also, like me).
I really hate USA so much…
Yeah, shit sucks… I lose $2500 USD if they don’t release the money they seized.
Sad part is if I was making money illegally or had more I would be storing it in a Belize or Seychelles IBC for $500/year max and I’d have avoided problems like this
Sorry to those who have hundreds, even millions in their lr, you may have never lost your fund yet they are trying to acquire information about some carder store such as their real tel and so on if after 5 days lr is not back online and if you are online gambler or a forex trader since they have decided to take away your only Legal means of making money online, i suggest you use google to find more about real professional scam and it will work out for you since they didn’t think that someone need to survive i will advice you to try as much as possible to be invisible but if you are caught reffer to this post… cos no one is saying fact…
US is so blinded by their selfish interest, not of the world.
do you really believe someone living in a clay hut in some third world country….. has money to invest in money exchanges? LMAO.
“i have no other way to make money” “there is no banks in my country” “i’m robin hood”….blah blah blah…..
1 out of 3 americans get their credit cards stolen. I worked for one accountant gets his identity stolen every few years. the pc industry is dying. i’m a video gamer too….and in this age now….real gamers have to buy the next gen consoles to game on…..and keep their other pc just for the hackers to virus. its ridiculous.
its getting pathetic out there. Just be happy some of you “fucks” aren’t disappearing yet, with your families wondering where you are. Although thats still possible since now the American gov’t knows where you live!
Cyber criminals are a bigger threat then any drug lord on the street or any armed bank robber. You hackers are delusional and becoming a national security problem.
“Real Gamers’
Oxymoron 🙂
only if your a russian hacker.
Sorry to those who have hundreds, even millions in their lr, you may have never lost your fund yet they are trying to aquire information about some carder store such as their real tel and so on if after 5 days lr is not back online and if you are online gambler or a forex trader since they have decided to take away your only Legal means of making money online, i suggest you use Google to find more about real professional scam and it will work out for you since they didn’t think that someone need to survive i will advice you to try as much as possible to be invisible but if you are caught refer to this post… cos no one is saying fact…
US is so blinded by their selfish interest, not of the world.
It’s imortant to note that “Money Laundering” is not money laundering. In the USA, “Money Laundering” the crime, is committed whenever you move money between your checking and savings account and back. It’s totally bogus.
It’s dishonest to portray people as guilty of Money Laundering when they are persecuted by the USA for “money laundering”.
The government wants tyrannical control, and so it creates these fake crimes in which to persecute people.
The real crime here is that the US government has stolen a domain name and shut down a business without ever having prosecuted that business, or even charged that business with committing a crime.
The criminals here are the US government, and every customer of Liberty Reserve is a victim.
When a government has accomulated such a great amount of debt that it is unable to repay; it shall – be any means necessary-collect funds in order to survive. History is full of examples (King John during Robin Hood’s time; King George’s decree concerning the taxation of TEA; yes even back to Biblical Times when Ceaser Augustus ordered all to return to their birthplace in order to be Taxed). Failure to comply resulted in punishment, imprisionment or loss of life.
It just might be possible that the US Government has exhausted all means of collecting revenue from it’s citizens; and therefore needs to expand it’s collection efforts outside it’s borders…
Regarding “the electronic transfer of funds without a license – therefore violating State Banking Laws”; I just paid my Credit online…might get the elecctric chair for that!!!
They use professional hackers such as Red Hat and so on to take DDos attack and when next they will publish they name some innocent people while they are doing it for selfish interest.