December 21, 2017

A U.K. man who pleaded guilty to launching more than 2,000 cyberattacks against some of the world’s largest companies has avoided jail time for his role in the attacks. The judge in the case reportedly was moved by pleas for leniency that cited the man’s youth at the time of the attacks and a diagnosis of autism.

In early July 2017, the West Midlands Police in the U.K. arrested 19-year-old Stockport resident Jack Chappell and charged him with using a now-defunct attack-for-hire service called vDOS to launch attacks against the Web sites of AmazonBBCBTNetflixT-MobileVirgin Media, and Vodafone, between May 1, 2015 and April 30, 2016.

One of several taunting tweets Chappell sent to his DDoS victims.

Chappell also helped launder money for vDOS, which until its demise in September 2016 was by far the most popular and powerful attack-for-hire service — allowing even completely unskilled Internet users to launch crippling assaults capable of knocking most Web sites offline.

Using the Twitter handle @fractal_warrior, Chappell would taunt his victims while  launching attacks against them. The tweet below was among several sent to the Jisc Janet educational support network and Manchester College, where Chappell was a student. In total, Chappell attacked his school at least 21 times, prosecutors showed.

Another taunting Chappell tweet.

Chappell was arrested in April 2016 after investigators traced his Internet address to his home in the U.K. For more on the clues that likely led to his arrest, check out this story.

Nevertheless, the judge in the case was moved by pleas from Chappell’s lawyer, who argued that his client was just an impressionable youth at the time who has autism, a range of conditions characterized by challenges with social skills, repetitive behaviors, speech and nonverbal communication.

The defense called on an expert who reportedly testified that Chappell was “one of the most talented people with a computer he had ever seen.”

“He is in some ways as much of a victim, he has been exploited and used,” Chappell’s attorney Stuart Kaufman told the court, according to the Manchester Evening News. “He is not malicious, he is mischievous.”

The same publication quoted Judge Maurice Greene at Chappell’s sentencing this week, saying to the young man: “You were undoubtedly taken advantage of by those more criminally sophisticated than yourself. You would be extremely vulnerable in a custodial element.”

Judge Greene decided to suspend a sentence of 16 months at a young offenders institution; Chappell will instead “undertake 20 days rehabilitation activity,” although it’s unclear exactly what that will entail.


It’s remarkable when someone so willingly and gleefully involved in a crime spree such as this can emerge from it looking like the victim. “Autistic Hacker Had Been Exploited,” declared a headline about the sentence in the U.K. newspaper The Times.

After reading the coverage of this case in the press, I half expected to see another story saying someone had pinned a medal on Chappell or offered him a job.

Jack Chappell, outside of a court hearing in the U.K. earlier this year.

Yes, Chappell will have the stain of a criminal conviction on his record, and yes autism can be a very serious and often debilitating illness. Let me be clear: I am not suggesting that offenders like this young man should be tossed in jail with violent criminals.

But courts around the world continue to send a clear message that young men essentially can do whatever they like when it comes to DDoS attacks and that there will be no serious consequences as a result.

Chappell launched his attacks via vDOS, which provided a simple, point-and-click service that allowed even completely unskilled Internet users to launch massive DDoS attacks. vDOS made more than $600,000 in just two of the four years it was in operation, launching more than 150,000 attacks against thousands of victims (including this site).

In September 2016, vDOS was taken offline and its alleged co-creators — two Israeli man who created the business when they were 14 and 15 years old — were arrested and briefly detained by Israeli authorities. But despite assurances that the men (now adults) would be tried for their crimes, neither has been prosecuted.

In July 2017, a court in Germany issued a suspended sentence for Daniel Kaye, a 29-year-old man who allegedly launched extortionist DDoS attacks against several bank Web sites.

After the source code for the Mirai botnet malware was released in September 2016, Kaye built his own Mirai botnet and used it in several high-profile attacks, including a fumbled assault that knocked out Internet service to more than 900,000 Deutsche Telekom customers.

In his trial, Kaye admitted that a customer of his paid him $10,000 to attack the Liberian ISP Lonestar. He’s also thought to have launched DDoS attacks on Lloyds Banking Group and Barclays banks in January 2017. Kaye is now facing related cybercrime charges in the U.K.

Last week, the U.S. Justice Department unsealed the cases of two young men in the United States who have pleaded guilty to co-authoring Mirai, an “Internet of Things” (IoT) malware strain that has been used to create dozens of copycat Mirai botnets responsible for countless DDoS attacks over the past 15 months. Jha and his co-defendants in that case launched highly disruptive and extortionist attacks against a number of Web sites and used their creation to conduct lucrative click fraud schemes.

Like Chappell, the core author of Mirai — 21-year-old Fanwood, N.J. resident Paras Jha — launched countless DDoS attacks against his school, costing Rutgers University between $3.5 million and $9 million to defend against and clean up after the assaults (the actual damages will be decided at Jha’s sentencing in March 2018).

Time will tell if Kaye or Jha and his co-defendants receive any real punishment for their crimes. But I would submit that if we don’t have the stomach to put these “talented young hackers” in jail when they’re ultimately found guilty, perhaps we should consider harnessing their skills in less draconian but still meaningfully punitive ways, such as requiring them to serve several years participating in programs designed to keep other kids from following in their footsteps.

Doing anything less smacks of a disservice to justice, glorifies DDoS as an essentially victimless crime, and serves little deterrent that might otherwise make it less likely that we will see fewer such cases going forward.

73 thoughts on “U.K. Man Avoids Jail Time in vDOS Case

  1. ofcourse

    offcourse who doesnt? and if its white collar thing,can we classified this as crime? and did he used internet connection with his passport? well i think to proof his guilt is other factor.
    as western society people have still humen rights.

    1. Ghh

      For those of you not in the know, p1st is one of the former admins of vdos and he’s taunting krebs because he knows he can get away with criminal extortion and such with no consequences.

      1. Anonymous

        I’m not too worried about p1st. Karma will get him eventually and when it does, it will be so so sweet 😉

      2. PlentyOFish

        Thanks for the background info! May the AI bees of black mirror fly up the meanie pants nose!

    2. Occam

      Do you understand the meaning of the word tosser? Just wondered since you seem to have trouble with you capslock key

  2. Emma Sokhanvari

    That’s remarkable to be so smart so young. Just wished that he used his brain for positive than negative things.

  3. The Phisher King

    So here is where I am at with this.
    Those intelligent enough to commit these crimes, whatever their age, know full well that what they are doing is wrong and that there could be severe consequences for being caught. They even go to extraordinary lengths to hide their true identities because they know just how harmful their actions are.
    If they are subsequently caught, the full weight of the law should descend upon them. You do the crime, you do the time.
    On the other hand, sentencing children to years of jail time for what is a non-violent crime, especially if it is the first time they have been caught, seems excessive and ultimately self-defeating. After being in jail what job are they going to get to feed themselves other than one that involves illegal activity?
    That is what I cannot reconcile – I want both severe punishment and lenient rehabilitation, but that cannot exist in our current system.

    1. PattiM

      Well, almost… Speaking in population averages, it’s well known by neuroscientists that the Frontal Lobe’s neural connections are not fully myelinated until 25 or so. The Frontal Lobe is the inhibitory/control part of the limbic system (read about Phineas Gage, who had his Frontal Lobe destroyed, as a dramatic example of its importance). So their Frontal Lobes are basically “offline.” The insurance companies are aware of the effects upon male behavior (and this is also one of the big reasons the US military wants new recruits to be under 25). The US courts have come a long way, but the law does not consider these kinds of facts very well; other than the “magical” night in every American’s life when you go to bed 17 years old and wake up the next day 18 years old… (haha!)

      1. Wm

        My “Frontal Lobe’s neural connections were not fully myelinated until 25 or so” also, but nevertheless, I realized the life ruining consequences of getting involved in criminal activity. Thus, I remained just a general hell raiser until my brain was fully developed.

      2. Matt from CT

        Because the law, in general, is based on whether you know right from wrong…not how well you control your impulses to do wrong.

        When we go down the path of forgiving behavior as “well the brain wasn’t fully mylienated…” we are going down the same path that used to let people off for crimes of passion “Oh, they just couldn’t control themselves finding their wife in bed with another man!”

        From there it is just a short leap to forgiving poor misbegotten Harvey Weinstein, he was a man and we know men sexual impluses! Some more than others!

        How we treat the criminal may vary based on the individual, but we shouldn’t be waving a hand and holding that broad swaths of society who are mature enough to know right from wrong aren’t given a free pass because they don’t have the same impulse control of others.

    2. JPTX

      These crimes committed by “youths” remind me of a British short story we were required to read back in the 20th century.

      The lack of consistency in sentencing is a major problem. Compare the US government’s over-reaction in Operation Sundevil from the 90’s to the punishment these boyz are getting.

      One form of punishment would be to restrict computer and internet usage over the next 10 years, to only those computers, smartphones, etc. that have had government monitoring software installed. The computers, etc. would have to be supplied by court approved means. The perp’s home, workplace, etc. would be subject to unannounced searches. Couple that with an ankle bracelet tracker. So no going to your friend’s house or cybercafés to circumvent the court order.

      That would drive them crazy.

      Maybe also have to register as a Hex Offender too. Not trying to be too funny, as it might work.

      1. Greg

        “Hex Offender” – I might have to steal/borrow/reuse that designation!

    3. Jim

      Interesting, to see someone justify unacceptable behavior. So, I can Rob a bank, and get a fingerslapp. If I do it over the internet? But go to jail if I do it in person? Taking without authorization either way is a crime. Just as denying a business of revenue, by blocking customers entry,

    4. bob

      Easy to reconcile, dump the severe punishment.

      Thousands of studies make it clear that jail time tends to criminalise rather than the opposite and is largely counter-productive for non-violent crimes. It’s also extremely expensive. (Unless you’re American and use prisoners as slave labour to produce cheap goods in an odd, anti-capitalist attempt to compete with China.)

      Are you conflating society’s desire to better itself with your desire for revenge?

    1. PattiM

      I think they have pretty good tests for Autism. That would be hard for a normal criminal to fake.

        1. George G

          “Lots of parents push to get their kids as diagnosed with Autism even if they don’t really have the condition.”

          You just go from doctor to doctor to get that.
          I vividly recall an article in the LA. Times where the mother described going from doctor to doctor because “we wanted a diagnosis of Autism”.

      1. Cory

        So people who have good enough reasons for criminal behavior should be excused? Sounds good until you’re the victim.

  4. Mighty Barrister

    The U.K. has always been lenient with sentencing for criminal convictions. No surprises there. Even murderers get, at most 10 years. I think Brian’s point is well-taken – this sends a message to these “brilliant” young criminals that it’s worth taking a chance on a criminal conviction to make some cool cash, since the punishment will not fit the crime.

  5. rich

    You’re not the first person to note that the UK has a very lenient justice system focusing on the needs of the offender. Only yesterday there was a tale of a man who shook his six month old baby to death. He got 7 years, and all sentences in the UK are automatically halved, so he will serve 3.5 years. If that’s what they give you for killing a baby you can’t expect anybody to serve serious time for a computer crime, can you?

    1. lolyer

      Excuse me, how is the UK particularly lenient when compared to most other first world nations?

        1. lolyer

          Uh, no? I asked how UK differs from other first world legal systems, his example simply does not stand out.

          1. SeymourB

            You know most states in the US still have capital punishment, and unless something changed while I wasn’t looking its still part of the federal courts as well. The US has executed mentally retarded people, a man of otherwise sound mind who shook his baby to death would be strapped to an express train to the needle.

            The UK very nearly has cameras on every corner, cameras on every road, multiple ways of monitoring every minute of your every day, and what does the UK do when they actually catch a criminal? Slap him on the wrist. They could forgo the surveillance state and slap criminals on the wrist just as easily. It’d be cheaper too. Just think, no more need for austerity measures.

  6. Tom

    One cultural observation is that it is easier to get labeled brilliant genius if you do hacking, ddosing, etc then if you do something constructive.

  7. Zack N

    It’s worth noting that for people under the age of 25, the “consequence-reasoning” area of the brain is underdeveloped. It’s easy to say “He should have known better.”, but that’s not necessarily the proper argument. Perhaps “He knew better, but he lacked the mental facilities to reliably connect his actions with how they affect other people” is a better statement to make – it’s supported by the body of childhood and adolescent psychology research, at least. Point is, this is the same as when you were young, did something astoundingly, obviously stupid, then right after doing it had that “Oh crap why did I do that” moment. That’s your brain literally being impaired when it comes to consequence reasoning. Every 16 year old does very stupid things, he just happened do something stupid that he got caught for. At the very least, at least his stupidity didn’t do anything but cost some businesses time and money.

    1. tom

      You are severly overstating the lack of consequence-reasoning in people under 25. It is not as good as in older people, but they are not six years old.

      >Point is, this is the same as when you were young, did something astoundingly, obviously stupid, then right after doing it had that “Oh crap why did I do that” moment.

      It was not moment in this case, it was repeated behavior. You may shortly join ‘business’ in wtf moment, you dont stay in it for months because of single moment.

      > That’s your brain literally being impaired when it comes to consequence reasoning. Every 16 year old does very stupid things, he just happened do something stupid that he got caught for.

      This is absurd. Nowhere near this level. Plenty of teenagers broke no law and plenty of teenagers harms no one.

      Claiming that we should not send people to jail nilly willy is one thing, claiming that this is normal teenager behavior is something entirely different.

      > At the very least, at least his stupidity didn’t do anything but cost some businesses time and money.

      You mean his school, for example. I guess that small business owners dont count as people who count?

      1. Tommy

        It would extremely excessive to give this person prison time.. its a kid. This isnt America, they dont ruin kids lives

        1. dbarry


          meanwhile, he’s let off relatively easy, thinking in his auto-tistic mind that he can plan his next sociopathic move.

          people like this need to be seriously punished before they pick up an AR or do something non-virtual.

          you may need a recalibration, sorry to say.

        2. Anon404

          Is this the same US that wanted to place 2 teens on a sex offenders list for life and charged with child pornography for sexting each other? (both were underage)

    2. Matt from CT

      >He knew better, but he lacked the mental facilities to
      >reliably connect his actions with how they affect other

      A not insignificant point to the law is to provide boundaries to people who have the mental faculties to know right from wrong…even if they personally can not reliably connect how their actions affect other people.

  8. Sam

    I love your work Brian, but need to respectfully pull you up on “autism can be a very serious and often debilitating illness”.

    The National Autistic Society term it a developmental disability, and say “Autistic people see, hear and feel the world differently to other people. If you are autistic, you are autistic for life; autism is not an illness or disease and cannot be ‘cured’.”

    1. George G

      Autistic for life?

      “The extent of autism’s transformation became apparent in a massive survey of parents published in 2009. U.S. health authorities were surprised to find that nearly 40% of children once identified as autistic no longer had the diagnosis. The findings suggest that autism, still officially a lifelong condition, has become such a broad and fluid concept that it can be temporary. “

  9. Diane Wilkinson Trefethen

    It is unfortunate that the judge accepted the idea that Jack Chappell’s autism was a valid reason for allowing him to escape punishment for his actions. Autism causes one to have difficulty relating to others but it in no way precludes one’s ability to understand that when you do something hurtful to another, that other will feel pain, or that hurting others is wrong. Granted these facts need to be taught; they are not innate, not even in people who aren’t autistic. However, with autistic children, sometimes the teaching is more complex and the learning curve longer.

  10. Ollie Jones

    Maybe the young guy is brilliant. But it doesn’t take brilliance to hire a vdos service, just money.

    I should think that a significant sentence of community service, working for some kind of charity, would be appropriate. If possible the sentence should be long enough that this guy becomes seriously invested in the charity’s work. Ideally he should get the supervision he needs to take his community service seriously.

  11. Average Joe

    White privilege at its finest.

    I Guarantee the judge would have locked him up if he was indian,black or asian.

  12. Brand:fire

    Computers run the world now – every aspect of our lives – from the food we eat (and the money used to buy it) to the electricity we consume and the volume of medication we need.

    We should be asking why it is that parents, grand-parents, uncles, doctors, scout leaders, vicars, football coaches, and teachers from nursery (kindergarten) upwards are not all instilling the essential rights and wrongs of Information Technology into children, alongside the more traditional rights and wrongs of the world.

    None of this will strop cyber crime, but judges would be free to hand out proportionate sentences if they knew that the person in front on them was in no doubt what they were doing.

    Yes, the sentence is bonkers – but it reflects society’s ‘no victim’ attitude to cyber crime.

  13. Fair sentence

    I think this was a very fair sentence, brian krebs keeps pushing for archiac US-like sentences.

    No prison time for white collar crimes.

    1. Brian Fiori (AKA The Dean)

      Why should white collar crime be exempt from jail time? White collar crime is REAL CRIME. I see very little difference between someone breaking into computers to steal vs breaking into your place of business or home, to accomplish the same theft.

      In both cases potential violence can be mitigated, and no deadly weapons used, but the violation (and loss) are the same to the victim.

      Of course the circumstances (age, mental condition, prior offenses) should be used in the calculation of the sentence. But white collar criminals should NOT get a pass. Real time for Real crime!

  14. Joseph woods

    I mean, why is this a bad thing though? Increasing cybercrime means increasing demand for cybersecurity, which benefits those in the security industry including you and me. If it damages the wealthy, why should we care? Hacking them should be a good thing because it punishes them for their poor security and benefits the middle class. They probably drink wine more expensive than our cars and think of us as plebeians anyways, so why should we care about their fortunes?

    Security jobs are hard to get, and don’t pay nearly as much as crime, and the risk is fairly low, so it’s hardly a surprise there is so much cybercrime. Greater punishments won’t discourage future criminals because of the low risk they don’t consider the possibility of getting caught. Don’t blame him, blame the system.

    1. BrianKrebs Post author

      Your comment smacks of someone who is either engaged in cybercrime or who comes from (or longs to come from) a culture where property rights and justice for its own sake hold zero value. Or you’re just trolling, I can’t tell.

      1. dbarry

        many thanks for stepping in after stepping up.

        happy holidays to you and yours.

  15. niceduck

    Using Authistihm as excuce to do crime is nonsence, or atleast such perosn should be placed to cure for decade, that is what happens on normal crimes. DDOS or any other interweb crime has toll to pay to our normal people everyday life. I do not want to pay more service money to my Bank, cause they need to protect against new ddos, who wants ?

  16. Just Saying

    He committed extortion. This is not defacing a web page or vandalism. He threatened people and knocked them off the network.

    One major step forward would be if industry no longer were wiling to hire serious criminals. I do not understand the appeal of handing someone like this your critical assets.

    A criminal conviction on embezzlement of the equivalent seems to be nearly mandatory for being trusted to run a bitcoin wallet company. Odd that.

    1. Dan Barry

      Hiring criminals happens because society is lazy. They can’t hire non-criminals because it costs too much, or the people doing the hiring are lazy.

      So better to hire criminals since they ” know their work ”

      Anyone else think this is indicative of the rot of our country?

      Here. Let me put it another way.

      If you are in the position of hiring an IT person, you probably make enough money to have sense about hiring.

      Stop cutting corners. Do a job befitting your pay. Don’t worry about your next car, or whether or not you will be able to fly to Hawaii next year. Do your job. Don’t hire criminals.

  17. John Clark

    This is something you might want to dig into. I just came across this on my local news.
    “Thieves are stealing your cell phone number to take your money” In less than 15 minutes, a man in Denver lost his cell phone number, and his bank account was hacked into. It involves the hacking of T-Mobile phone numbers that are ported over to burner phones that are then used to tap into Wells Fargo bank accounts.

    1. Clay_T

      Yikes. I’m using T-mobile and Wells Fargo. Thanks for the heads up.

  18. Twisted Logic

    When I read this story, the defense argument that was made, and the judge’s response it brought to mind commenets by some in America about the root cause behind the formation of ISIS:


    Hey! Give all those ISIS people jobs and they won’t go around killing people.


    If you believe propaganda about this guy’s mental problems, then I’ve got a Channel Tunnel to sell ya!

  19. Drone

    Mr. Krebs, did you offer your pro-bono expert testimony to the prosecution? If yes, what happened?

    1. BrianKrebs Post author

      It is generally not a good idea for serious journalists to put themselves out there as expert witnesses. When you do that, you open yourself up to being cross examined and potentially compelled to answer questions about sources, methods, etc. Also, I’m of a mind it generally is a good idea to avoid going to court unless absolutely necessary (or compelled to by jury duty, summons, etc).

      1. Drone

        Good points, thank you for taking the time to reply.

        However, seeing this sentence: “Also, I’m of a mind it generally is a good idea to avoid going to court unless absolutely necessary (or compelled to by jury duty, summons, etc).” troubles me. To me it implies the legal system in the U.S. is (or has become) something a law abiding citizen must fear.

        1. BrianKrebs Post author

          One never knows what will happen in court. I once went to traffic court over several parking tickets that were clearly issued in the wrong — counting on the fact that most people won’t bother to take the time to contest them. I did, but the first court date I missed because a co-worker called in sick and no one else could cover for him (I called in the day of the court date and the clerk agreed to reschedule my court date).

          The day of the second court date, I arrived in court early and sat through 3 hours of cases before they called mine, all the while watching in horror as the judge dismiss one drunk driving case after another. My case gets called, I stand up and have all kinds of pictures and evidence to back up my dispute, and the judge says to me, “Mr. Krebs, I see here that you were supposed to be in my courtroom here 2 weeks ago. What happened?” I explained my absence and the judge said, “You know I could hold you in contempt of court, fine you and hold you in jail overnight?” I stood there dumbfounded without response for what seemed like eternity, after which he ordered me to pay double the fines I would have paid if I’d just paid the tickets, plus a court fee. On top of that, I’d taken a day off work to go to court, so that was an expensive learning lesson.

          That’s a small, relatively harmless example, but the advice to avoid going before a judge is as old as the bible, and with good reason (regardless of the country).

    2. dbarry

      to quote BK

      ” perhaps we should consider harnessing their skills in less draconian but still meaningfully punitive ways, such as requiring them to serve several years participating in programs designed to keep other kids from following in their footsteps.

      Doing anything less smacks of a disservice to justice, glorifies DDoS as an essentially victimless crime, and serves little deterrent ”

      The best thing B can do is hope to be a source for good people to refer to. Like, instead of relying on an expert witness, the Judges and lawyers should refer to this site, and the ideas from all contributors within all components of the site.

      Like the suggestion above: put them to work. Not let them off. Nobody who has done wrong should ever be let off without paying a price. Either no ice cream, public pelting, public service, cleaning up city streets, something. Puhleeze.

  20. Tech Support

    He should be sentenced to 10 years of tech support. For seniors.

    1. Brian Fiori (AKA The Dean)

      Ha! That’s how I’ve spent my last ten years. And I didn’t even do anything wrong!

  21. Leo

    An excuse for wrong-doing is one thing; a reason for it is another.

    A lawyer is tasked with conjuring a defence and this is more often the excuse rather than the reason for the offense. If the defendant’s excuse is the combination of immaturity and a savant syndrome (e.g. autistic savant) that is an argument for diminished capcaity. The defendant’s reason is probably completely logical, at least from their point of view. They used their skills knowing they were committing a crime, knowing the consequences would be dire (to their victims) and revelling in their accomplishments. The percentage of these defendants with severe savant syndrome is in question, though it is probably higher with the more successful ones. They all lack social interest to a varying degree. I’d argue that the majority are more likely greedy, unscrupulous bad asses.

    With our understanding of the brain so limited, Judges seem to be airing on the side of caution when dealing with diminished responsibility. They are questioning whether committing these individuals to a penitentiary is wise. Unfortunately the plain old bad asses are evading justice as well.

  22. cosmo

    question? if we see talented and skilled guys like him?
    why we dont give smart and talented guys high paying jobs ?
    then they dont have to steal! or those cyber-crooks can become cyber security experts,and they will be best at protecting average sitzens from threats! why goverment dont use those guys to do good things for society? society any society needs talented clever people!!!
    why we dont do things right?

    1. dbarry

      ” then they dont have to steal! ”

      Nobody HAS to steal.

      You think stealing is ok because we don’t give a teenager a job.

      That teenager stole because his parents were bad parents, he was a bad person, and he deserves to be in jail.

      You cannot stand up for him. He needs to do things for society for FREE now.

    2. BrianKrebs Post author

      Half of these guys already think that criminal hacking and getting arrested for it — combined with the inevitable media attention afterward — are the keys to getting a job as a security researcher. Giving them high-paying jobs would only guarantee that we see a LOT more of this, because it would reinforce the idea that there are zero negative consequences for criminal hacking.

      1. SkunkWerks

        Timing is important, I think. Giving talented people a channel for that talent that is both constructive and rewarding- BEFORE they find something that’s destructive and predatory- has value.

        But this also implies you can spot the talent when the profile is “low”.

  23. cosmo

    Mr. Krebs yes you are right! thats true very true in healty thinking healty mindset world but for some reason our society is complitely up side down. but anyways the question is why guys like this can not find the better purpose for society?? forexample,the fire is good or bad fire can used for good purposes or you can burn whole forest with fire if you dont have control over fire:) so talented people are like fire if someone dont direct their skill and ability for good then they will use it for bad.

    1. dbarry

      cosmo, with all due respect, stop blaming everyone but the criminal.

      fire is a tool and EVERYONE needs to keep fire OFF and pour water on it unless and until it is needed.

      EVERYONE. That includes YOU. Stop acting like fire is acceptable. Pour your water. On. It. Now.

      Thank you.

      Find a nice job for your criminal friend. We will provide him with meals and bandages if needed.

  24. RW

    He’s only a lad, you really can’t blame him
    Only a lad, society made him
    Only a lad, he’s underprivileged and abused,
    Perhaps, a little bit confused.

    -Oingo Boingo

    Makes just as much sense now as it did then.

  25. Someone

    His crime did not take any genius or intellect. He registered at a website, handed over some money, selected a target and pressed the attack button.

    He doesn’t deserve a job under government with a big paycheck as many are saying.

    My grandma can’t use a computer but with a couple hundred dollars and some practice using the mouse and keyboard, she could have pulled this off.

    Stop glorifying him and just put him in prision. Age or disability makes no difference, if you go out of your way to cause distraction you must undergo consequences.

  26. Angry

    If the law won’t do it’s job, then people will be forced to step up. Criminals like this have no use for fingers. Cut them off.

    1. dbarry

      Hmm. Kinda extreme. But I think that maybe chunk off back to the nail on the index finger on non-dominant hand would be a fair reminder to not screw up again.

      Chunk. I think we all appreciate the sound and appearance of that C word.

      Merry Chunkmess

  27. FunnyBits

    ….NO jail-time??? These crimes need to have mandatory sentencing that sends to proper message to these criminals.
    “Autism” is going to be the ‘new plea’ now that this case has set the precedent. Shame on the court system for allowing this.
    These bad actors should be put to work in prisons doing manual labor (Scrubbing toilets/Laundry/etc) and solitary confinement. They need to learn what hard labor is and feel the consequences of their bad actions.
    Once again just like the helicopter parenting today there’s no follow-through to show these kids there are consequences for making the wrong decisions in life. This is a complete dis-service in regards to training our youth how life really works. Parents need to be parents and not your kids best friend. As parents you need to be clear with your kids that mommy and daddy can’t make everything better, you don’t get trophy’s for participation in life and they cannot get you a promotion at work. Life has RULES and is hard at times and only dedicated hard work over a long period of time will allow you to EARN it.

    1. SkunkWerks

      I dunno about “new plea”. Mental conditions have ever been an excuse proffered for all kinds of crime, from misdemeanor through felony.

      When I was growing up, one town over from me there was a fellow who during an arrest, managed to shoot a cop to death.

      The circumstances were somewhat freakish. The officer was wearing body armor, but the guy managed a sort of “miracle shot” where the bullet passed through a space under the arm and into the officer’s heart- almost immediately killing him.

      When this one went to court, Attention Deficit Disorder was the proffered excuse. I seem to recall the judge rejected it as significant in any way to the circumstances- as well he should.

      I have it myself. Yet I’ve managed to keep the inevitable urge to murder the constabulary in check… somehow. I credit treating my issues as something to be planned around and compensated for rather than something to be reviled, feared and ultimately buried instead of confronted.

      I was diagnosed around that time (30-ish years back), when the rate of diagnosis was rising, as were claims/critiques of over-diagnosis, and of course debacles like this one- successful or not- weren’t helping.

      But it tells you something too: if these conditions weren’t very real- with very real consequences and adverse affects on people- they wouldn’t keep cropping up as excuses in court cases like this.

      Let’s be honest here though, this probably has as much (if not more) to do with society at large not taking anything involving “computer stuff” very seriously. In 30 years it’s gone from being a hobbyist’s spare time waster to being the nearest neighbor to the currency of the realm.

      Those of us involved in the trade understand this seriousness. But most of society is still stuck on the idea that this is all harmless- if intriguing- puttering that ultimately affects them very little.

  28. MB

    Maybe secret services and the police need some easily controlled hackers for dirty operations?
    They can be kept under surveillance, under the terms of some sort of supervised release. If they don’t comply, it’s easy to send them back to jail for meaningful or insignificant parole violations. And if they brag about what they do, nobody will believe them and they can be silenced immediately.
    So such compromised people may be too valuable to be sent to jail.
    Or does this only happen in books and movies?

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